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Old 07-02-2006, 04:19 PM
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Default I think I'm finally going to swap cams..

Ran 6.16 @ 114 at like 3000' DA the other night with the old 3.7 pulley. Its funnt the car runs almost the same with 2 less psi of boost so I think it may be time to up the cam a little.

I have a comp 222/228 115lsa XE (.56x lift) cam here that I am tossing in, anyone care to make a prediction how it will do as opposed to the 204/211 116 .525 cam thats in it now? My dyno/dragstrip sim tells me .15 and 2mph in the 1/8 with no other changes. At least it will sound coolrr idling then the cam thats in it
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I could be wrong, but that cam probably won't be to lopey. You need to get one of those " I've got a big compensating for something else cams" .

My buddy was running a 222/226 cam, custom for app, and was trapping 3mph higher that guys running "Ron Jeremy" cams.

I think you prediction is probably right on par. Was that a custom spec cam? Or just something you're tossing in to see how it works?
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its out of a friends car, its an old A&A blower grind cam. But it still ran 5.76 @ 126 in a 3000lb TT 347 C5 a month ago so I guess it didnt know it was a blower cam.. Its laying here so I figured I would try it and see what happens.

I'm sure it will lope more then the cam that is in it
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Originally Posted by sscam68
My buddy was running a 222/226 cam, custom for app, and was trapping 3mph higher that guys running "Ron Jeremy" cams.
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You are running the 01 Z06 cam currently, correct?
Old 07-02-2006, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bowtieman81
You are running the 01 Z06 cam currently, correct?
that is correct
Old 07-02-2006, 06:52 PM
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NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! oh well at least it''ll be a little faster, but no more 9sec Z06 cam car
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yea, well I'm hitting a brick wall somewhere, thought maybe it was the exhaust but it wasnt. Its easy to swap cams on this so I'll give it a try, I could wait for cooler weatehr to get them 5s but I'm trying to do it in the summer
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Is there any advance ground into that cam? How high are you planning to spin the motor?

It'll be cool to see you hit 5's but I think after you do it you should throw the Z06 cam back in hehe


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F1 upgrade??? That'll get you past the "wall"
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
F1 upgrade??? That'll get you past the "wall"
Good one Jer. I'm curious to see who/what combo pushes the D1 to its limits.

Good luck KP
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Originally Posted by CHRISPY
Is there any advance ground into that cam? How high are you planning to spin the motor?

It'll be cool to see you hit 5's but I think after you do it you should throw the Z06 cam back in hehe


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the usual +2 is ground in, sim shows the shift points at 6750 and 6800 for best ET so thats like 150 more rpm then I am shifting now. I'm mostly worried about killing the 60' but we'll see, if it runs 2 more mph and the same ET the Z06 will be going right back in.

I spent a whole hour and a half on it today, too lazy to jack the car up to hold the flywheel so I can get the balancer bolt loose - if I didnt have to do that I wouldnt even have to jack it up to swap the cam. Got to love these cars..
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
F1 upgrade??? That'll get you past the "wall"
cam = free
F1 = 2500.00

tough decision lol.

But an F1 would do it with the z06 cam, I have no doubt. With the 3.4 pulley the IATs would rise nearly 15 degrees more on an 1/8 pass then the 3.7 so its pretty much a wash. While its making more boost the heat is killing it. I could maybe work around that with some meth injection but a bigger blower would be the better solution IMO.

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F1+free cam=right decision...zing pow...

'sides it was joke Kev, free parts are always great.....send the ZO6 cam to me i'll pay shipping.
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if this cam works out you can have the z06 cam if you really want it, we'll see this weekend if its not 100 degrees and its not raining
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I want it, just let me know how much I'd really like to try out that cam and replace this big one.
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Originally Posted by kp
I spent a whole hour and a half on it today, too lazy to jack the car up to hold the flywheel so I can get the balancer bolt loose - if I didnt have to do that I wouldnt even have to jack it up to swap the cam. Got to love these cars..
Damn - are F-body cam swaps really that simple?
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
I want it, just let me know how much I'd really like to try out that cam and replace this big one.
J
We'll see how this one works out, like I said you can have it if I dont put it back in - isnt worth a whole lot anyhow. I was going to make a lamp out of it since it has done me so well but I'd rather see someone use it..


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Damn - are F-body cam swaps really that simple?
Compared to a C5 it sure is
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Originally Posted by kp
yea, well I'm hitting a brick wall somewhere, thought maybe it was the exhaust but it wasnt. Its easy to swap cams on this so I'll give it a try, I could wait for cooler weatehr to get them 5s but I'm trying to do it in the summer
Do you think there was any gain with the exhaust change?
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Originally Posted by onfire
Do you think there was any gain with the exhaust change?
Not really, looked like it needed a little more fuel up top so it may have helped a little there but a few peak hp wont change the ET much. I have a feeling with the cam being that small it really didnt make much difference, but it will probably help with the bigger cam. I'm just changing one thing at a time.. But it sounds a lot better anyway (no more rasp) and I can run a sumped tank now without a regular catback.

Either way the car is running better then it did last november @ 700' DA at the same track with the old motor/heads, DA was 2000' higher and the car was 65lbs heavier and still ran .01 and 1mph quicker so I'm not complaining


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