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With a cam, D1SC, LTs, fuel system, LS6 intake manifold, and LS2 Throttle body I put down 641/509 on 12# of boost and 91 octane. This was with the stock heads and stock bottom end. I backed it down to the low 600s via 10deg timing over 6K for longevity sake and it ran like a charm.

I just upgraded to a 402 from Katech with Lingenfelter 6.0 heads and the same D1 and I'm loving the combo. I wanted to give everyone an idea of what kind of upgrade this is with the same car before and after dyno graphs. I am only running 10# of boost through this motor and the results are promissing.

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This motor can easily handle a ton of boost, but I may not go over 12# for some time as hooking it up is just as important.
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Originally Posted by Drewstein
With a cam, D1SC, LTs, fuel system, LS6 intake manifold, and LS2 Throttle body I put down 641/509 on 12# of boost and 91 octane. This was with the stock heads and stock bottom end. I backed it down to the low 600s via 10deg timing over 6K for longevity sake and it ran like a charm.

I just upgraded to a 402 from Katech with Lingenfelter 6.0 heads and the same D1 and I'm loving the combo. I wanted to give everyone an idea of what kind of upgrade this is with the same car before and after dyno graphs. I am only running 10# of boost through this motor and the results are promissing.

Dyno Graphs

This motor can easily handle a ton of boost, but I may not go over 12# for some time as hooking it up is just as important.
thats awsome...you just sealed the deal for me. i have a 402 in the process of being built for boost and i was undecided on if i should go with a D1 or turbo. i want to go D1 cause i dont wanna deal with the unprooven turbo kits but after hearing all this recent talk about stock cubes working better with the D1 had me questioning my choice in cubes.
was that also on pump gas?? what size injectors are you going with?
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very nice and can we get some pics of the car to!!
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Originally Posted by TNTramair
was that also on pump gas?? what size injectors are you going with?
91 Octane and 60# injectors.

Fuel system includes twin intank pumps and Fast fuel rails with a -8 feed line.
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Originally Posted by Drewstein
91 Octane and 60# injectors.

Fuel system includes twin intank pumps and Fast fuel rails with a -8 feed line.
ok kool. this on a stick car?? and yes..any pics of the car...id love to see them.
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http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=42
Check out this 402 with a D-1SC. Bob
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http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=42
Check out this 402 with a D-1SC. Bob
What boost was that 750rwhp on, 14#?

We're pretty sure we can cover 800rwhp if we boost to it, but traction may be an issue as you guys well know.

We also went with the SPEC 5 as I had the 3+ already and plan on making more than it can handle.

Mine's also in an FRC that weighs in at 3080lbs full interior.

Yes it's a M6 car btw.
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Originally Posted by Drewstein
What boost was that 750rwhp on, 14#?

We're pretty sure we can cover 800rwhp if we boost to it, but traction may be an issue as you guys well know.

We also went with the SPEC 5 as I had the 3+ already and plan on making more than it can handle.

Mine's also in an FRC that weighs in at 3080lbs full interior.

Yes it's a M6 car btw.
We have a setup like your's in a 97 Vette. Last time on the dyno it made 730hp/700tq at 14lbs. We had the ECS fuel system and 60lb injectors on pump gas.We ran out of fuel,so added a meth kit for the topend. At that tune the car ran 10.4 at 142mph (6-sp ,3.42 gears ,1.60 60')Weight was 3560lbs.
Hopefully this winter we'll actually tune it up a bit since timing was only at 14 degree's due to the fuel problem.I see no reason to run a F1 on the street,this car makes 500ft/lbs at 2500rpm and already has serious traction problems anywhere under 80mph.
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picked up a good amount of torque, boost that **** now
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#12 with stock ls1 heads??? uhhh
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Originally Posted by Drewstein
What boost was that 750rwhp on, 14#?

We're pretty sure we can cover 800rwhp if we boost to it, but traction may be an issue as you guys well know.

We also went with the SPEC 5 as I had the 3+ already and plan on making more than it can handle.

Mine's also in an FRC that weighs in at 3080lbs full interior.

Yes it's a M6 car btw.
It was at 15.5 psi. Bob
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Very Impressive Looks Like A Good Proven Combo.
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Very nice results... Whats the pulley size on both setups?
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Nice numbers Drew! Joe and O'conner were telling me about this and how tractionless it is! Very nice dude, very nice.
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Originally Posted by Smearin
#12 with stock ls1 heads??? uhhh
Yup, and nobody has made much more on stock heads and stock bottom end because of it. 10deg timing over 6K helped it live for sure. Especially on 91 octane because I won't ever run meth/alchy.
Very nice results... Whats the pulley size on both setups?
I had the 4.75 on for both runs. Only thing that changed was the motor. I want to get a 4.00 on there and see what she does and go from there.
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those are damn nice numbers. especially on a stock bottom end.
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Hey Drew... 13 PSI pulley will be here any day... ready to crank up the boost and the timing?

im hoping for a minimum of 750 rwhp on 91 octane before we have to put the race gas in... the car is on an EXTREMELY safe tune right now as the dyno was done with only 200 miles on the engine and clutch, plus Drew needs to get used to the car before putting it on Kill! still more on the table with a FAST 90 and 3 inch exhaust
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That and we shot the dipstick out of the car because the crank case isn't ventilated enough so we're doing that too.

1st and 2nd on the street are just retarded. It's like riding a bucking bronco.


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