peter@aps

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No problem and I can understand why some guys might be a little sceptical as I have now read a few threads on turbo companies in the US letting many F body people down. I'm happy to sit back and just let our F body twin turbo system do the talking as I'm very confident that APS will deliver a very high quality twin turbo product as we have done for the GTO market. A few recent threads below for all who are interested in APS twin turbo systems.

Peter

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140687

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145572

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr...64#post2407364

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145482

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143297

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144863

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141156

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144812

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144705

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141672

Big Bird WS6

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now with the intercooler mounted, will the trans am have to cut the front or you design it better.

peter@aps

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The APS supplied turbos will easily support a 427 twin turbo engine and the turbos have sufficent mass air flow deliver (twin turbos combined for 100 lbs per minute mass air flow) for around 1000 HP flywheel (approx 850 rwhp) and I'm very confident that the F body twin turbos will be ideal for 408 and 427 cube engines.


I guess different people have different perspectives on what's a small or large turbocharger...............imho you can easily go too large with turbos which creates far too much turbo lag for a daily driven car................I like to hit the gas in 5th gear at 2000 rpm and be pushed into the seat big time................it''s really all about how much power and torque you want under the curve.


APS has not yet developed an F body fuel system so I can't quote you any pricing yet.

Thanks,

Peter

peter@aps

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Hi Guys, I just coaxed an engineering diagram (actual engineering model) of the F body twin turbo left hand side exhaust manifold from my friend in our engineering department. As you can see the F body twin turbo project is progressing very quickly and the production shell core/shell mould exhaust manifold tooling will be completed by mid May if our tool maker meets his quoted lead time, enjoy!

Peter

2002 Trans Am

No "if" I think you mean "when"
Nice pictrue by the way! What connects the manifold to the turbo? I imagained the manifold extending further down connecting directly to the turbo

peter@aps

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Correct, the manifold tooling had better be finished by the due date.


The turbo bolts directly to the flange that you see in the picture.............this way the turbos are above oil pan level and the turbos don't require the extra complexity of a scavenge pump to return the turbo lubricating oil to the engine.

Peter

2002 Trans Am

Sounds good, if it fits it fits is all I care.

I'm not a fan of scavenge pumps either. Another part to possibly fail and take out a ton of **** on it's way. Plus it looks cool as hell to drill and tap the oil pan with AN fittings and huge lines

peter@aps

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The F body twin turbo system will fit like a hand made tailored suit.................that's for sure.

Peter

2002 Trans Am

BTW your manifolds look awefully similar to the Speed Inc TT manifolds (thats a good thing)

Their kit uses
GT35R or GT35R ball bearing turbochargers
PT67 P-trim ball bearing turbochargers
PT300-6152 61mm standard bearing turbochargers

How do these turbos compare to the turbos your kit will be offering?

2002 Trans Am

I only wear Hugo Boss suits, and they fit me like a glove....I look forward to your kit

Hugger Z

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Right Click, Save As.... Woohoo! The pictures are starting! Ha ha. Thanks Peter! Looks good.

Wonderbread

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Def. looking good, cant wait to see some kits first hand

GrnDragon

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Thanks for addressing my concern Peter, this kit just sounds like it may be perfect for my use in a street car with crazy power and easy/fun to drive.

I was looking at you website for the C5 kit and I noticed you sell a complete dual 3" SS exhaust system to go with your kit for the C5's, will there be any thought to offering the same thing for the Fbodys (BMR offers a panhard bar relocation kit to accommodate a dual 3" exhaust system)? I am VERY interested in the TT kit and if you decide to make them the fuel system and full exhaust system.

ss_girl

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So the turbos will be on the front side of the head? Will they be visible when the hood is popped? I'm trying to visualize what everything will look like.

Big Bird WS6

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ss_girl
that is a left side picture
so no turbos will be on the back side of head( towards the rear of the car ) which is just like all the other ls style kits.

peter@aps

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I have not seen that exhaust manifold (do you have a pic) though once you fit the K member our engineers and prototype techs tell me that's there's only really one practical position for the twin turbochargers.............we all have to work around the same physical space available for the turbochargers.

Peter

onfire

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onfire

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Peter,

I'll bet ya an Australian Coke the passenger side manifold plus turbo can not be installed as one assembly.

onfire

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.......with the engine in the car.

peter@aps

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Thanks for the pics. I see they are fabricated manifolds (look quite nice) though I have found over the years that fabricated manifolds never last very long in a turbo appliction unless the exhaust manifolds are made in from an inconel material which is crazy expensive and not affordable for a production twin turbo system. I'd rather spend the large sum of money once on high volume casting tooling and then cast the manifolds so that the twin turbo system remains affordable for mere mortals and to ensure a high degree of long term exhaust manifold durability.

Thanks,

Peter