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Old 10-17-2007, 07:10 AM
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I was wondering for all the F1 people- what kind of blocks are you using? Are the 6.0L Iron/Aluminum blocks, or LS2 based, LS1? What is the desired compression ratio as well?
Old 10-17-2007, 07:34 AM
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OLD - Stock LS1...didn't fare too well.

NEW - Iron 6.0, 243 heads. ~9.2:1 CR. Should be highly boostable.
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LQ4 block stroked to 402 CID. Compression ratio is 9.2 with 74cc TEA III heads and -15cc dish pistons.

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You could go with the aluminum LS2 and save some weight
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LS6 block, stock LS6 crank, compstar rods, mahle pistons, stock 6.0L heads. SCR is 9.45:1
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Originally Posted by TN94Z
You could go with the aluminum LS2 and save some weight
It's about an 80 lb diff...
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LS2 block which didn't fare too well so considering LSX.
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LS2 block which didn't fare too well so considering LSX.
No..... what happen, did it break?
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No..... what happen, did it break?
He is my best guess. Running 18 lbs on pump gas + methanol had to put me at the limit or slightly over and then add in a fair amount of blow by and oil into the combustion chamber which greatly increases the chances of detonation. I detonated 2 pistons, so I am seriously considering going with a LSX block now.
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Originally Posted by speedracer5532
He is my best guess. Running 18 lbs on pump gas + methanol had to put me at the limit or slightly over and then add in a fair amount of blow by and oil into the combustion chamber which greatly increases the chances of detonation. I detonated 2 pistons, so I am seriously considering going with a LSX block now.
it could only get better with the lsx block-
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Originally Posted by speedracer5532
He is my best guess. Running 18 lbs on pump gas + methanol had to put me at the limit or slightly over and then add in a fair amount of blow by and oil into the combustion chamber which greatly increases the chances of detonation. I detonated 2 pistons, so I am seriously considering going with a LSX block now.
Yeah, I suppose 18lbs on pump would be a little difficult to tame the tune on. An LSx will be nice, have you considered scaling the boost back or running race fuel to tame the detonation. Good luck with the build. It's addicting huh?
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Originally Posted by speedracer5532
He is my best guess. Running 18 lbs on pump gas + methanol had to put me at the limit or slightly over and then add in a fair amount of blow by and oil into the combustion chamber which greatly increases the chances of detonation. I detonated 2 pistons, so I am seriously considering going with a LSX block now.
Whats your pcv consist of?
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The LS2 block is a strong block for being aluminum. I wouldn't be afraid to boost the crap out of it. Bob
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Originally Posted by helicoil
Yeah, I suppose 18lbs on pump would be a little difficult to tame the tune on. An LSx will be nice, have you considered scaling the boost back or running race fuel to tame the detonation. Good luck with the build. It's addicting huh?
From what I have learned this year I will not run more than 15 lbs on the street with pump gas and if I want to turn it up then yes I would run race gas.
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Originally Posted by Jake@EPP
Whats your pcv consist of?
Both valve covers and the valley cover going to a catch can and a breather on top on the catch can.

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Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
The LS2 block is a strong block for being aluminum. I wouldn't be afraid to boost the crap out of it. Bob
Bob, I agree the LS2 is strong and I could take what I have learned and probably be fine. But last winter I bored my LS2 block .005 to make the cylinders perfectly round and now I have a mark in the 2 cylinders that I messed the pistons up in. They might clean up with .005 or .010 bore but that just makes the cylinders alittle weaker. I could resleeve those 2 cylinders but that isn't cheap so I figured now is the time to go LSX and have a really good foundation. I am pretty sure under boost the aluminum block is moving around some so over time there is more of a chance for problems down the road where the iron block shouldn't move and last much longer.
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Originally Posted by speedracer5532
Bob, I agree the LS2 is strong and I could take what I have learned and probably be fine. But last winter I bored my LS2 block .005 to make the cylinders perfectly round and now I have a mark in the 2 cylinders that I messed the pistons up in. They might clean up with .005 or .010 bore but that just makes the cylinders alittle weaker. I could resleeve those 2 cylinders but that isn't cheap so I figured now is the time to go LSX and have a really good foundation. I am pretty sure under boost the aluminum block is moving around some so over time there is more of a chance for problems down the road where the iron block shouldn't move and last much longer.

So it sounds like your lower end looked good, bearings and main bore? That is good info to know. Makes me feel more comfortable. I had contemplated the girdle when I screwed mine together last winter, but I opted against it based on some of the success I have heard of on this board.

I am trying to keep mine a little more on the mild side for street driving purposes. 900+RWHP would probably be too extreme for me and my 4L65E, but it is nice to know that kinda power is there.

I will pretty much have the same set-up as yours with an auto when I put it all in. I switched my heads to a 225 AFR and used the 205's on my stock LS1 this summer.

I now realize that the 650RWHP I had hoped for would have been easily obtained with a smaller Procharger, milder cam, and 205 heads. I will be happy with a mid 10 car in race trim.

A part of me wants to put this thing into my 66 Nova, just can't figure out fitment of the intercooler, but at least then, I cold turn it up
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Originally Posted by helicoil
So it sounds like your lower end looked good, bearings and main bore? That is good info to know. Makes me feel more comfortable. I had contemplated the girdle when I screwed mine together last winter, but I opted against it based on some of the success I have heard of on this board.

I am trying to keep mine a little more on the mild side for street driving purposes. 900+RWHP would probably be too extreme for me and my 4L65E, but it is nice to know that kinda power is there.

I will pretty much have the same set-up as yours with an auto when I put it all in. I switched my heads to a 225 AFR and used the 205's on my stock LS1 this summer.

I now realize that the 650RWHP I had hoped for would have been easily obtained with a smaller Procharger, milder cam, and 205 heads. I will be happy with a mid 10 car in race trim.

A part of me wants to put this thing into my 66 Nova, just can't figure out fitment of the intercooler, but at least then, I cold turn it up
there was that vette with the f1c wit hthe canadian performance built block making i think 955rwhp through a 4l65e and a 347ci block. ran i think a 9.5@145 or so. his tranny is holding up so far



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