Running in under load procedure?
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Running in under load procedure?
My 383 tune has been tweeked to suit bigger injectors (was 42Lb, now 60Lb on 427, so we can start the engine & check for oil pressure etc.
After that, the consensus seems to be to run the engine in on a dyno under load to prevent the bores from glazing.
The plan seems a bit vague. Is this secret engine builder/tuners business, or is there a common-knowledge best procedure for bedding boosted rings under load on a dyno?
This build will be a daily driver so I'm chasing longevity.
Intercooled 3.3L twinscrew initially ~14Lbs
The Warhawk/Allpro combo with 6 studs should be good for 30Lbs
T56 & 3.73's. Yeeeha!
After that, the consensus seems to be to run the engine in on a dyno under load to prevent the bores from glazing.
The plan seems a bit vague. Is this secret engine builder/tuners business, or is there a common-knowledge best procedure for bedding boosted rings under load on a dyno?
This build will be a daily driver so I'm chasing longevity.
Intercooled 3.3L twinscrew initially ~14Lbs
The Warhawk/Allpro combo with 6 studs should be good for 30Lbs
T56 & 3.73's. Yeeeha!
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I was always told rings seat under vacum.
I later comfirmed this when I had a old sbc that had been freshend up, I drove this motor for months with nasty blow by, It was the first time I had an engine where the rings didnt seat. So an old timer told me to get the motor up to temp cruise about 60mph and down shift two gears ( like useing the engine as a brake)untill the truck had slowed to the point where it at idle . I did this three times and no bull the blow by stoped. So the next time I did a motor I would rev it up real slow to high rpm then just let the throttle blades shut quick, basically putting large vacum against the rings.
I later comfirmed this when I had a old sbc that had been freshend up, I drove this motor for months with nasty blow by, It was the first time I had an engine where the rings didnt seat. So an old timer told me to get the motor up to temp cruise about 60mph and down shift two gears ( like useing the engine as a brake)untill the truck had slowed to the point where it at idle . I did this three times and no bull the blow by stoped. So the next time I did a motor I would rev it up real slow to high rpm then just let the throttle blades shut quick, basically putting large vacum against the rings.
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I was always told rings seat under vacum.
I later comfirmed this when I had a old sbc that had been freshend up, I drove this motor for months with nasty blow by, It was the first time I had an engine where the rings didnt seat. So an old timer told me to get the motor up to temp cruise about 60mph and down shift two gears ( like useing the engine as a brake)untill the truck had slowed to the point where it at idle . I did this three times and no bull the blow by stoped. So the next time I did a motor I would rev it up real slow to high rpm then just let the throttle blades shut quick, basically putting large vacum against the rings.
I later comfirmed this when I had a old sbc that had been freshend up, I drove this motor for months with nasty blow by, It was the first time I had an engine where the rings didnt seat. So an old timer told me to get the motor up to temp cruise about 60mph and down shift two gears ( like useing the engine as a brake)untill the truck had slowed to the point where it at idle . I did this three times and no bull the blow by stoped. So the next time I did a motor I would rev it up real slow to high rpm then just let the throttle blades shut quick, basically putting large vacum against the rings.
pressure, short bursts, vary load - no overdrive low RPM wot pulls, and stay at operating temp
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#8
vacumn does not affect the rings push against the wall, it is all about BMEP. high cyl pressure force ring to outside of wall, making good wear. high BMEP for a long period of time will cause glazing of the wall.
pressure, short bursts, vary load - no overdrive low RPM wot pulls, and stay at operating temp
pressure, short bursts, vary load - no overdrive low RPM wot pulls, and stay at operating temp
I was also toying with the idea that under hard vacum with the throttle blades closed if the cylinder wall gets a little hotter than normal because there is way less fuel to cool the charge and if that in turn heated the rings to a point where they finaly set.
#10
please follow this link, it covers the information i convey:
http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm
#11
I gotta ask what is "it is all about BMEP."
I was also toying with the idea that under hard vacum with the throttle blades closed if the cylinder wall gets a little hotter than normal because there is way less fuel to cool the charge and if that in turn heated the rings to a point where they finaly set.
I was also toying with the idea that under hard vacum with the throttle blades closed if the cylinder wall gets a little hotter than normal because there is way less fuel to cool the charge and if that in turn heated the rings to a point where they finaly set.
wall temp is subject of maginitude of wall wetting (decel enrich), AFR, and timing
all are usually kept at safe/minimal levels for longevity
#12
that has to do with blow by, not seating rings on a new build. the big shots run very big camshafts that do not create large vacumn that a production car would - thus the pump or using an exhaust pull
please follow this link, it covers the information i convey:
http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm
please follow this link, it covers the information i convey:
http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm