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Old 08-10-2008, 07:43 PM
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Default Turbo pipes melted the High Pressue Power Steering Hose =/

I did have both the high pressue hose wrapped using header wrap, and also all the pipes underneath it were wrapped.

Need to use something that will block the heat more. What do you guys think?

This is how it was, but it was wrapped.



This is what happened to the hose.


This is the pipe that caused it to melt.



So I bought a new hose and power steering pump because I kinda figured the pump would be shot as I drove it home without any fluid.





What do you guys recommend to wrap it with this time?
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Maybe thinking this stuff?

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

or
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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I say you make your own hose and rout it further away from your pipes.
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need to make a custom hose and route it away from there.

what kind of kit is that?
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Return the hose you bought and have a custom one made at a hydraulic shop or order the AN fittings and lines you need to make your own.
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Its the PTK knock off kit.

If someone can point me to the right direction for ordering the custom AN fittings, ill do that.
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Here's a list of how I did mine.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/367551-stainless-braided-power-steering-lines.html
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Awesome thanks! I think i may have to order the parts up and do the stainless braided lines.
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Hey how is the rest of your build doing? Im thinking of doing an ebay hot side also.
Have you had it tuned yet.
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Its doing good. I had it partially tuned by LSXtune.com Frost is the owner of it.

The trans was going out before I got the turbo, so having the turbo is only making it shift worse, lol.

Going to get a new trans soon.
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Originally Posted by NoClassic
Return the hose you bought and have a custom one made at a hydraulic shop
This is EXACTLY what I did as I had the EXACT same outcome as you. Right on the same place as yours too from the pics. I also had the lines wrapped but I got towed since I didn't want to wreck my pump.

I actually could have made the hose myself as you need the special fittings to go into the pump. The hydraulic shop was stumped since the hose is crimped on and I came up with my own idea while I was there. Cut the steel lines and use compression fittings to connect to the right length hose. Just make sure its longer as it clears nicely now. I slightly bent the steel lines down by the rack for a bit more clearance too.

I also got rid of the power steering cooler as it was too close to the turbo even though I had a turbo blanket. I think that the hose was pinched off a bit and not flowing properly. You could get some 90 degree fittings for the cooler but from what I researched you might as well get rid of the cooler and buy a rad hose without one. I have to do that yet and this actually reminded me of that! All you have to do is cut/shorten the one hose and connect it to the base of the pump.
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Glad to hear I wasnt the only one =-)

Going to order the stainless steel stuff and get it over with. Going to also order a power steering cooler to get the temps lower.
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Originally Posted by Monello
Glad to hear I wasnt the only one =-)

Going to order the stainless steel stuff and get it over with. Going to also order a power steering cooler to get the temps lower.
Ya the cooler is probably a good idea, I thought about it but not into road racing, etc that would really make it worse.
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manual rack=weight savings
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For my hiflo kit I bent the metal part of the hose to make the entire hose clear the crossover there as well. I used this stuff on the powersteering hose, as well as other areas that came closer than 3-4" to a wrapped hot part...

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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Originally Posted by Websy21
This is EXACTLY what I did as I had the EXACT same outcome as you. Right on the same place as yours too from the pics. I also had the lines wrapped but I got towed since I didn't want to wreck my pump.

I actually could have made the hose myself as you need the special fittings to go into the pump. The hydraulic shop was stumped since the hose is crimped on and I came up with my own idea while I was there. Cut the steel lines and use compression fittings to connect to the right length hose. Just make sure its longer as it clears nicely now. I slightly bent the steel lines down by the rack for a bit more clearance too.

I also got rid of the power steering cooler as it was too close to the turbo even though I had a turbo blanket. I think that the hose was pinched off a bit and not flowing properly. You could get some 90 degree fittings for the cooler but from what I researched you might as well get rid of the cooler and buy a rad hose without one. I have to do that yet and this actually reminded me of that! All you have to do is cut/shorten the one hose and connect it to the base of the pump.

Beware....power steering systems use very very high pressure, well beyond the rating of normal compression style fittings.
Power steering fluid/ATF fluid is also very flammable.

Do not take chances.

If you need to adapt a steel pipe to an AN style fitting, weld a male thread onto the pipe, or have the pipe flared.

My car is different to yours, but I made my own PAS lines using Earls stuff, which has specific power steering lines and fittings to cope with the high pressures involved, which can be over 1000psi.
I made new steel fittings to go into my rack etc, welded a -6 male thread onto them, and made my pipes from there.
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hmm.

I know it spilled power steering fluid on the wrap on that pipe. Should I replace the wrap on that pipe or do you think the silicone coating was enough to stop it from going through the wrap?
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I would say that if it is dry now, it should be ok.

But I have seen cars go on fire when PAS fluid has been squirted onto hot exhaust manifolds....made worse by heat wrap, as the fluid tends to stick to it better.
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wow didnt know it was that flammible.

Guess I need to order more header wrap then.
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PAS fluid, ATF fluid...same thing. It is most definately flammable.....


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