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Old 09-01-2005, 11:24 AM   #1
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Default Can an F-body be converted to use E-85 fuel?

Anyone monkeyed around with it? I'm sure SOMEONE on here has done so for race purposes. What would it take?
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I've been wondering the same thing. The "tuning" part shouldn't be that much different. I'd be interested to find out the impact of running it on certain parts..like the injectors, fuel pump/fuel filter...
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new injectors, rails, and pump (maybe). I know specifically that the trucks' rails and injectors are different and qualified for E85.
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Also piston, and rings im not sure though. But either way I dont think its worth the effort and money.
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actually it prolly would be, 15-20% in power, cleaner burning, cheaper in the long run, burns better, etc, etc
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what is e-85 gas .. ?
85 octane?
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Ethanol/Gas blend, 105 octane.
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One of the biggest problems is figuring out where to find it for sale.
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Also piston, and rings im not sure though. But either way I dont think its worth the effort and money.
From what I understand the pistons and rings are fine, it's the rubber parts in the fuel system that are the problem.
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One of the biggest problems is figuring out where to find it for sale.

Maybe this can help you out.....http://www.e85fuel.com/database/search.php
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You know, a few months back I was looking into Ethonal conversion and asking in the Fueling forum and there was no interest and some anti-interest even. Seems rather funny now. lol

Yeah, fuel tank (need metal), fuel lines, injectors, pump, filter, basically anything that the fuel touches needs to be metal. The internals are fine.

The real trick is the tune. I'm not sure where to even begin looking into tuning that. And of course fuel supply is an issue too.
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would prolly be cheaper to sell your car and buy a civic.....
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would prolly be cheaper to sell your car and buy a civic.....
Why do you say that? What research have you done on the matter to come to that conclusion? Just curious.
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it is methanol that eats rubber, the biggest hurdle with ethanol/e85 is the extra fuel required.
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nahhh... screw that... steam power guys! You could just burn the money for fuel! Eliminate the whole step of buying fuel.
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Im looking into building an E85 powered BBC within the next year or 2. My school does a lot of work with E85.
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The F-body is a little different from converting a normal passenger car.

Fuel pump(material breakdown) and the lines going to the injector rails.

Do the rails need to change, deppends on how they get it to start in the cold. Usually anything over 50 percent ethanol will not start in sub 50 degree weather so maybe they use heated rails.

Other than that, just a new tune.

I am seriously thinking of doing it to the C5 since I can get E85 cheap, not to mention you can make it yourself.

Our next car will run on E85.

Federal regs call for alot more things to be done to the car including a special filler tube so morons cannot syphon the fuel and drink it

I'm not kidding either, its a rule. For home conversion though just change the hard parts that would get hurt and retune it.

I'm going to rejet the carb in the tractor for E98 and see how it runs.

Its not hard and its not rocket science either. Deppends how cheap you can get E85, if you live in the plain states the stuff is dirt cheap, like 1.70 a gallon. Here in Michigan they rape you on it but I have a wholesaler down the street from me, plus as I said, get yourself a still and you can make it yourself.
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Federal regs call for alot more things to be done to the car including a special filler tube so morons cannot syphon the fuel and drink it

I thought that our cars already had that? I know Grand Prix's do
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The F-body is a little different from converting a normal passenger car.

Fuel pump(material breakdown) and the lines going to the injector rails.

Do the rails need to change, deppends on how they get it to start in the cold. Usually anything over 50 percent ethanol will not start in sub 50 degree weather so maybe they use heated rails.

Other than that, just a new tune.

I am seriously thinking of doing it to the C5 since I can get E85 cheap, not to mention you can make it yourself.

Our next car will run on E85.

Federal regs call for alot more things to be done to the car including a special filler tube so morons cannot syphon the fuel and drink it

I'm not kidding either, its a rule. For home conversion though just change the hard parts that would get hurt and retune it.

I'm going to rejet the carb in the tractor for E98 and see how it runs.

Its not hard and its not rocket science either. Deppends how cheap you can get E85, if you live in the plain states the stuff is dirt cheap, like 1.70 a gallon. Here in Michigan they rape you on it but I have a wholesaler down the street from me, plus as I said, get yourself a still and you can make it yourself.
Its funny how we have been conditioned to think 1.70 is "dirt cheap" There are quite a few ethanol plants around me and E85 goes for about 1.80/gallon right now.
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what do you guys think about propane?
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