Racetronix Gets It Backwards
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Racetronix Gets It Backwards
First I want to say that this really isn't a rant, because I understand everyone makes mistakes. Although, had I done my fuel pump install the right way and dropped my tank, I'd be very bumbed out at having to drop my tank twice for their mistake. I thankfully made a "trapdoor." The install was very straightforward and not really very hard. There was only one mistake in the instructions that mentioned a black and red wire, when in reality it was a black and gray wire. This was no big deal though, and common sense sorted this one out. After the installation I went to check my fuel pressure and had none at the fuel rail. I disconnected the fuel line at the tank and no fuel pressure there either. I pulled the pump back out of the tank and after lots of searching, realized that the black(-) and gray(+) wire's of the power harness that plugs into the pump were reversed. This harness is meant to plug right in to the pump without any modification. There would be no reason for anyone to even second guess the way it comes from racetronix. I had to pull the wires back out of their harness and reverse them. The pump obviously worked very well after this. As for quality, the racetronix pump is excellent. They even give you extra zip ties and bolts in case you lose/need them. Everything came very nicely packaged also. I'd have to say for an aftermarket pump, the plug and play racetronix is the way to go. Just do yourself a favor and double check their "handywork" before installing. Otherwise..............you might be doing it twice.
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Originally Posted by DrkPhx
So the external plug n play harness that connects between the stock wiring harness was backwards?
QUOTE: holy **** that sucks *****!! I just got my kit and was going to install it tomarrow. How long did it take u?
A few hours because I was taking my time and double checking everything. It's not a hard install. It just takes a little time to either build a trap door or drop your tank and run the wires. The wiring is 6th grade simple, it just takes some time to run them laying on your back. I hooked my + up to the alternator and am happy with how the wiring is ran. Good luck, and don't forget to check your harness. On the top of the pump there is a + and - in small print. Your's will probably be fine, I'm sure mine was just a flook.
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I agree, that is the nicest setup I have seen yet. I installed one on a 01 WS6 and install was a breeze on a lift. High Quality. Took 2 hours, just follow the instructions plus they even have pictures!
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I'm still waiting to hear from them about the mistake on my harness. The racetronix kit was nice but the PNP weatherpak plug was wrong and had to be switched. Good luck with any rebate or even them owning up to the mistake. Seems to me that the only thing they care about is the sale and once they have your money tuff luck with any trouble.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
I'm still waiting to hear from them about the mistake on my harness. The racetronix kit was nice but the PNP weatherpak plug was wrong and had to be switched. Good luck with any rebate or even them owning up to the mistake. Seems to me that the only thing they care about is the sale and once they have your money tuff luck with any trouble.
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All too often customers overlook things during the install process and are very quick to place blame.
The in-tank harness is tested on the bench and a QC label is applied when it passes. Some customers have failed to read the manual thoroughly and have moved the wrong wires around on the bulkhead connector and inadvertently mixed up the pump's polarity. The manual has clear color pictures showing the pin letter designations and wire colors so there is no excuse why anything should be overlooked even if there was an oversight during the manufacturing process. Step 24 even goes so far as to recommend checking the pump's wiring polarity!
There are 1000's of the F99 systems in use today w/o problems.
Since nobody contacted us about this problem it is a mute point. If you want help or answers e-mail support@racetronix.com. If you want to vent and make accusations use the forum. LS1TECH is not Racetronix' official support medium.
The in-tank harness is tested on the bench and a QC label is applied when it passes. Some customers have failed to read the manual thoroughly and have moved the wrong wires around on the bulkhead connector and inadvertently mixed up the pump's polarity. The manual has clear color pictures showing the pin letter designations and wire colors so there is no excuse why anything should be overlooked even if there was an oversight during the manufacturing process. Step 24 even goes so far as to recommend checking the pump's wiring polarity!
There are 1000's of the F99 systems in use today w/o problems.
Since nobody contacted us about this problem it is a mute point. If you want help or answers e-mail support@racetronix.com. If you want to vent and make accusations use the forum. LS1TECH is not Racetronix' official support medium.
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Originally Posted by Racetronix
All too often customers overlook things during the install process and are very quick to place blame.
The in-tank harness is tested on the bench and a QC label is applied when it passes. Some customers have failed to read the manual thoroughly and have moved the wrong wires around on the bulkhead connector and inadvertently mixed up the pump's polarity. The manual has clear color pictures showing the pin letter designations and wire colors so there is no excuse why anything should be overlooked even if there was an oversight during the manufacturing process. Step 24 even goes so far as to recommend checking the pump's wiring polarity!
There are 1000's of the F99 systems in use today w/o problems.
Since nobody contacted us about this problem it is a mute point. If you want help or answers e-mail support@racetronix.com. If you want to vent and make accusations use the forum. LS1TECH is not Racetronix' official support medium.
The in-tank harness is tested on the bench and a QC label is applied when it passes. Some customers have failed to read the manual thoroughly and have moved the wrong wires around on the bulkhead connector and inadvertently mixed up the pump's polarity. The manual has clear color pictures showing the pin letter designations and wire colors so there is no excuse why anything should be overlooked even if there was an oversight during the manufacturing process. Step 24 even goes so far as to recommend checking the pump's wiring polarity!
There are 1000's of the F99 systems in use today w/o problems.
Since nobody contacted us about this problem it is a mute point. If you want help or answers e-mail support@racetronix.com. If you want to vent and make accusations use the forum. LS1TECH is not Racetronix' official support medium.
And dont say no one contacted you because they did. The mechanic at the time called and Nitro Dave who I bought it from has called you as well, your a lying cheat!
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Originally Posted by Racetronix
All too often customers overlook things during the install process and are very quick to place blame.
The in-tank harness is tested on the bench and a QC label is applied when it passes. Some customers have failed to read the manual thoroughly and have moved the wrong wires around on the bulkhead connector and inadvertently mixed up the pump's polarity. The manual has clear color pictures showing the pin letter designations and wire colors so there is no excuse why anything should be overlooked even if there was an oversight during the manufacturing process. Step 24 even goes so far as to recommend checking the pump's wiring polarity!
There are 1000's of the F99 systems in use today w/o problems.
Since nobody contacted us about this problem it is a mute point. If you want help or answers e-mail support@racetronix.com. If you want to vent and make accusations use the forum. LS1TECH is not Racetronix' official support medium.
The in-tank harness is tested on the bench and a QC label is applied when it passes. Some customers have failed to read the manual thoroughly and have moved the wrong wires around on the bulkhead connector and inadvertently mixed up the pump's polarity. The manual has clear color pictures showing the pin letter designations and wire colors so there is no excuse why anything should be overlooked even if there was an oversight during the manufacturing process. Step 24 even goes so far as to recommend checking the pump's wiring polarity!
There are 1000's of the F99 systems in use today w/o problems.
Since nobody contacted us about this problem it is a mute point. If you want help or answers e-mail support@racetronix.com. If you want to vent and make accusations use the forum. LS1TECH is not Racetronix' official support medium.
Last edited by Redneck Z; 10-07-2005 at 04:23 PM.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
I'm still waiting to hear from them about the mistake on my harness. The racetronix kit was nice but the PNP weatherpak plug was wrong and had to be switched. Good luck with any rebate or even them owning up to the mistake. Seems to me that the only thing they care about is the sale and once they have your money tuff luck with any trouble.
Talk to you next time.
Dave
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Guys,
In this market everyone makes mistakes.However when things go through a quality check point they are normally caught. But in many cases the product could still be packaged wrong.
The best way to handle this is to send the product back to the manafacture.In some occasions you can fix it your self.If its something you have no choice but to take care of your self because of it being in a shop or on a lift or what ever the reason is.Take pictures and save the parts you changed.This helps the manafacture know with out a dought if it is customer era, packaged wrong or built wrong.It takes all the gray area out.
Keep in mind no matter what comapany you are dealing with that if you do not take these measures you do not have any proof.Unfortintly the dishonest people that are out there looking for a hand out makes it harder on all the honest people.
Thanks
Dave
In this market everyone makes mistakes.However when things go through a quality check point they are normally caught. But in many cases the product could still be packaged wrong.
The best way to handle this is to send the product back to the manafacture.In some occasions you can fix it your self.If its something you have no choice but to take care of your self because of it being in a shop or on a lift or what ever the reason is.Take pictures and save the parts you changed.This helps the manafacture know with out a dought if it is customer era, packaged wrong or built wrong.It takes all the gray area out.
Keep in mind no matter what comapany you are dealing with that if you do not take these measures you do not have any proof.Unfortintly the dishonest people that are out there looking for a hand out makes it harder on all the honest people.
Thanks
Dave
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My gripe is the way they have handled their customers concerns. I wasn't looking for a free pump. Instead of blaming their customers for their mistakes, they could at least appologize or pretend that they are concerned....or care. My point was to help them to realize that maybe some of their wiring might be installed backwards, so they could keep this in mind for the future. I was trying to help, not get a free handout. They have just shown exactly how much they care, or don't, about their customers and their product reputation.
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RedneckZ - I can understand your frustration. I spent hours upon hours chasing what I thought was a PCM related problem and after methodically checking everything I found out it was the PNP external harness that was causing the problem. To Racetronix's credit I e-mailed them about the problem and they responded within 24 hours via e-mail asking me for a phone number and a good time to call to me at. For the sake of time I decided to forego that route and fixed it myself.
Racetronix - FWIW, The sponsor I bought it from told me specifically to go directly through you for any issues or questions after the purchase. This seems to be consistent with most of your dealers. This is probably why you receive so much contact direct from end user.
Racetronix - FWIW, The sponsor I bought it from told me specifically to go directly through you for any issues or questions after the purchase. This seems to be consistent with most of your dealers. This is probably why you receive so much contact direct from end user.
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Plug and play means its good to go! Plain and simple. If racetronix cant admit it was wired wrong that blows Not like the guy was bashing you guys. And it was such an easy fix, I wouldnt wait for a email from you either. Bust out a phone # and stop hiding behind a keyboard. Sometimes a customer needs a answer now. Not sitting on a PC waiting for you to reply. How many times did I email you for a Double pump setup? Count it 22 times! Thats the main reason I went with the areomotive kit. Its all good buying from sponsors here and your products are nice. But you just being internet based is fine up to a point!
Last edited by JMBLOWNWS6; 10-07-2005 at 07:07 PM.
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
Plug and play means its good to go! Plain and simple. If racetronix cant admit it was wired wrong that blows Not like the guy was bashing you guys. And it was such an easy fix, I wouldnt wait for a email from you either. Bust out a phone # and stop hiding behind a keyboard. Sometimes a customer needs a answer now. Not sitting on a PC waiting for you to reply. How many times did I email you for a Double pump setup? Count it 22 times! Thats the main reason I went with the areomotive kit. Its all good buying from sponsors here and your products are nice. But you just being internet based is fine up to a point!
My 1st thought was "where's the 1-800 number?" Now I know if I had been able to get a hold of them, they would have just blamed their backwards wiring on me anyways.
Ok, I've said enough....at least others considering a racetronix pump will know beforehand what they are getting in to. You might get a good pump with no problems and you'll probably be very happy. Just be aware that if there is a problem, they won't stand behind their product, and you will be the one that gets blamed for it.
Last edited by Redneck Z; 10-07-2005 at 07:11 PM.