Midwest 9 vs Moser 12 bolt weight saving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04-06-2009, 04:00 PM
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Midwest 9 vs Moser 12 bolt weight saving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well I finally took out my Moser 12 both this weekend and thought I would weigh it and compare the weight difference between the Midwest 9. I really thought the Midwest would be heavier because I used a Moser 9 center section in the Midwest. The Moser 9 center section was 73 lbs by itself. I was surprised to see the weight difference.
****Moser 12 both with 373 gears and 33 spline axles = 203 lbs
****Midwest 9 with 35 spline gun drilled/star flange axles and Moser 9 iron
center section spool. 175lbs.
So the Midwest is 28 lbs lighter with a much heavier center section and stronger axles and housing. Midwest TQ arm is much lighter, being made of chromoloy(I forgot to weight it) vs mild steel (spohn weights 32lbs). I'll post pictures later.
****Moser 12 both with 373 gears and 33 spline axles = 203 lbs
****Midwest 9 with 35 spline gun drilled/star flange axles and Moser 9 iron
center section spool. 175lbs.
So the Midwest is 28 lbs lighter with a much heavier center section and stronger axles and housing. Midwest TQ arm is much lighter, being made of chromoloy(I forgot to weight it) vs mild steel (spohn weights 32lbs). I'll post pictures later.
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04-06-2009, 08:02 PM
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I just ordered my tq arm from Midwest as they have a new one out now. Should be interesting getting it installed. It's not a typical design.
04-07-2009, 12:32 AM
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You are getting part of your weight savings from gundrilled axles/star flanges on the axles which the 12-bolt didnt have.....youd see less of a diff if they were comparable axles.
04-07-2009, 08:27 AM
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I have a Midwest Torque arm right here and it weighs 13.5 pounds with no rod ends, so maybe add another .75 pound for those. Oh and this is the long arm for trans crossmember mounted TA's,
The aluminum center section would be a bit lighter yet. I would say 155-160, that is 10 bolt territory.
04-07-2009, 09:17 AM
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The gun drilled/star 35 spline axles (I'm guessing) are about the same weight as 33 spline axles or very close. So there's not much of a weight loss (guessing). I should have put all the parts on the scales when I purchased them.
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04-07-2009, 12:35 PM
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A few pounds no doubt, but not a 30 pound difference.
I have a Midwest Torque arm right here and it weighs 13.5 pounds with no rod ends, so maybe add another .75 pound for those. Oh and this is the long arm for trans crossmember mounted TA's,
The aluminum center section would be a bit lighter yet. I would say 155-160, that is 10 bolt territory.
I have a Midwest Torque arm right here and it weighs 13.5 pounds with no rod ends, so maybe add another .75 pound for those. Oh and this is the long arm for trans crossmember mounted TA's,
The aluminum center section would be a bit lighter yet. I would say 155-160, that is 10 bolt territory.
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12-31-2009, 04:04 PM
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i will be getting mine from midwest when the time comes real soon here.Its cheaper then the 9 from eps and i taslked to the guy at midwest on the phone and he seems like a real straight shooter.Cant go wrong with midwest
12-31-2009, 04:14 PM
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I had the center section and axles and shipped them to MidWest. They built the fab 9 housing, assembled it and shipped it back for 1500 if I remember correctly.
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01-02-2010, 09:48 AM
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hey does anyone have the wieght of the 35 spline gundrilled starflange compared to the regular 35 spline? do you have the wavetrac or a locker?
my Midwest 9 is stock length with 35 spline axles, iron center, wavetrac and i did have a moser 12 bolt before...i just wana see what my wieght diff would be
my Midwest 9 is stock length with 35 spline axles, iron center, wavetrac and i did have a moser 12 bolt before...i just wana see what my wieght diff would be
01-02-2010, 12:34 PM
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eric told me its about 8#s gun drilling /star flange over solids on the 35spline deal
good info cliff, what diff was in the 12bolt. On my s60 I saved 32#s going to the spoll from a truetrac. But the S60 has a HUGE diff.
Get a weight of the TA with the rod ends, jam nuts, and bolts. That stuff weights a lot, ther alot of metal in the 3/4 hardwear.
good info cliff, what diff was in the 12bolt. On my s60 I saved 32#s going to the spoll from a truetrac. But the S60 has a HUGE diff.
Get a weight of the TA with the rod ends, jam nuts, and bolts. That stuff weights a lot, ther alot of metal in the 3/4 hardwear.
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