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Old 07-13-2014, 01:38 AM
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Ok so i know this is a noob question but i bought some new gears... now what else do i need to install them and freshen up my rear (new bearings etc...) should i do wheel bearings??
How many bottles of Gm posi additive do i need??

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I'm working on a really detailed writeup...but that won't finish until I finish my install...and currently I've been dealing with a busted thread on my pinion for the last 2 weeks and so pissed I'm about to take a grenade to the car...

BUT...I'll give you a sneak peak at my writeup by giving you the parts and tools list (it's 22 pages so far, without pics, and I'm only at the backlash part, so it's gonna be big...

By the way, the writeup includes diff, u joint, and PHB, so there may be a few extra parts/tools than you need.

PARTS
• Motive Gear G875410 - 4.10 Ring & Pinion Set
• Motive Gear GM7-5IK - Motive Gear Ring & Pinion Installation Kit (includes carrier and pinion shims, marking compound & brush, ring gear bolts, Black RTV, a pinion nut, a 1998-2000 pinion seal, and a crush sleeve) (See NOTE1)
• Pinion Crush Sleeve (if not using the kit) or Solid Spacer & Shims
• Timken HM89210 - Rear Pinion Bearing Race
• Timken HM89249 - Rear Pinion Bearing
• Timken M86610 - Front Pinion Bearing Race
• Timken M86649 - Front Pinion Bearing
• 2x Timken LM501314 - Carrier Bearing Race
• 2x Timken LM501349 - Carrier Bearing
• Timken 8610 - Pinion Seal (For 1998-2000)
National 710474 - Pinion Seal (For 2001-2002)
(See NOTE2)
• Moog 534G - U Joint
• Moog 530-10 - U Joint Strap Kit (optional)
• National 99152 - Pinion Yoke Redi Sleeve (only if needed) (See NOTE3*)
• 2x FelPro RDS55072 - Differential Cover Gasket

TOOLS
• Safety Goggles
• A Jack
• 4 Jackstands
• Rubber Mallet or Dead Blow Hammer
• Regular Hammer
• 4-5 lb Sledge
• 10 lb Sledge Hammer (optional)
• 3/8" Drive Socket Wrench
• 3/8" Drive Torque Wrench (~0-80 ft/lb)
• 3/8" Drive 1" Extension
• 1/2" Drive Socket Wrench
• 1/2" Drive Breaker Bar
• Pipe to go over Breaker Bar
• 1/2" Drive Torque Wrench
• Variety of Metric (8-19mm) and SAE (1/4-7/8) both Standard and Deep Well Sockets
• 1/2" Drive 1.25" Standard Depth Socket
• 1/2" Drive 1.25" Deep Well Socket
• 12-18" Punch Tool -OR- 12-18" 1/2" Drive Socket Extension (See NOTE3)
• 12-18" 1/2" Drive Socket Extension or...a broomstick? (See NOTE4)
• Set of Ratcheting Wrenches (Optional) Swivel Head even better!
• Vise Grips or Small Pipe Clamp (for U Joint caps)
• Dremel with Metal Cutting Discs or other cutting utility
• Dremel Sanding Bit or other sanding utility (See NOTE5)
• Seal Puller
• Seal Driver Kit (~65mm-82mm)
• 8.5" Bearing Separator
• Caliper (Must be capable of reading 0.001")
• Dial Indicator (Must be capable of reading 0.001" ticks)
• Lb/Inch Beam Type Torque Wrench (See NOTE6)
• Ratech 18001 - Pinion Yoke Holder Tool (See NOTE7)
• High-Temp Red RTV Silicone Gasket Maker
• Bernzomatic TS4000KC Torch Kit or other Blow Torch
• 2-3 Cans of Brake Kleen
• 4-5 Bottles of Royal Purple 75w90 OR Other gear oil (See NOTE8)
• 1 Bottle GM 88900330 - Limited Slip Axle Lubricant Additive (See NOTE9)
• C-Clamp
• Pen Magnet
• A Vise (Optional but helpful!)
• 2x4 Planks of Wood (Optional)
• 2x Wire Hangers to hold up brake calipers
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Thanks that will surely help. I have someone to do it for me i just need to make sure i gather all the parts before i take it to them. I have GM 4.30 gears. Is there somewhere i can just buy a complete "install kit"??

What is: (note 1) and (note 2)?? Also do you know how many bottles of GM additive i need?? So far I've read i need 2 i just want to verify.
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You can get a complete install kit from Summit.
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NOTE1: If you don't buy the kit, you have to buy some of these separately. You really just need the pinion and carrier shims, marking compound & brush, and crush sleeve. The bolts and pinion nut you'll be using from your old diff. See NOTE2 about the oil seal.
NOTE2: The design of the yoke changed in 2001. Apparently, some 2001s are said to still have the older version, and some have newer ones. The shaft of the yoke that goes into the housing (through the oil seal) is slightly larger in diameter than the older ones. This means that your oil seals will be different model numbers, and if you get a Pinion Yoke Repair Sleeve, it'll be a different part number as well. The appearance of the oil seal you have installed will be the dead giveaway. The newer models have a collar placed inside the yoke. I've read that people can remove the collar (pry it out with a flathead screwdriver) from the yoke and use the older design, but with National brand seals being fairly accessible, I'd just buy the right kind for your car. Timken and the one that comes from the Motive Installation Kit (and all the other installation kits I've seen) come with the older design.
NOTE3*: This is the part number for the older style yoke. I cannot find a redi sleeve for the newer style. You only need this part if the shaft on your yoke has a groove in it. So, if you have a newer style yoke and you've got a groove, you have to buy a new yoke. Look for one matching a "Mech 3R" U Joint specification. They seem to range from about $65-100.
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Buy the compete master install kit from Ratech off summit... then get a girdle (Proform, TA, Mac) from WS6store



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