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Old 10-26-2004, 05:01 PM
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Angry what the hell rear end do i have??

i bought my car from a girl who said she "had some rear end work done to it" some time before i bought it from her. the speedometer was off but i was so excited about it i wasnt going to let an ls1/6-speed car slip through the cracks.

i crawled under the car today and made a mark on the end of the pinion and a reference on the housing. i then spun the tire exactally 1 time. the pinion spun 3 times completly then it went about 1/2-5/8" more and the tire had spun 1 revolution. i was expecting the yoke to spin almost another 1/2 turn if i had a 3.42, or to spin to almost another 1/4 turn if i had a 3.23. ITS NOT EVEN GOING THAT FAR. say 6 oclock was my reference point, the yoke spun almost to 7 oclock after the third turn.

what all gears could have possibly been installed in a 10 bolt? it seems like its less (numerically) than a 3.23 but it does make more than 3 turns so it cant be a 2.73. im thinking she had problems, took it somehwere, and said fix it. then they just threw some random gear set in it .

so what gear do you think is in it?? no wonder why i can always hook up so good off the line!!!
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Could be a 3.08 if it were changed. Pull the cover and check the numbers on the gear to be certain. If it is a torsen or even an open diff, it is hard to get an accurate estimate. If it has been worked in, it could be anything.
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Also, you are saying 3-1/2 to 3-5/8 turn, that could be a 3.42 or 3.73. But then you say it only went from 6 to 7 o'clock.
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Just pull the cover.
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no im not saying 3 1/2 or 3 5/8, my mark, went another 1/2 inch past my reference mark lol.

3.08 sounds close. i bought some additive the other day, i planned on changing the fluid this weekend. mine has the auburn unit (G80), at least i hope it STILL does!!, i guess ill count 'em up if its not stamped somewhere.

i was thinking there was a ratio real close to 3.00, is there anymore?? im royally pissed off about this. im about to put a new clutch in and im not going to run a good clutch on such a small rear end, it will kill it sooner. but then again i dont want to spend all that money on a 4.10 and have it break or not be able to hook up.
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I have a rear end that has never had any work done on it. You could sell yours and buy mine
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how many miles on it?? by no work did you mean it even has the stock gear? if not which one? did you have the damn t-rex/3600 while it was still in??!!?

i had actually thought about buying a complete 10bolt but im just skeptical about the dependability. i can keep the one i have in my shop if the one i buy pulls the ole on me. oh yeah how much?

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One more thing... did you have someone hold the other wheel to keep it from moving? I think you actually have to hold one wheel, spin the other wheel TWICE, and count the driveshaft revolutions (in neutral, of course). Maybe it is only once... i cant remember now.
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im pulling the cover on saturday, ill see what the deal is then.
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just popped the cover

40 teeth on ring gear, 13 teeth on pinion

= 3.0769 = 3.08 gear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wtf, ive never heard of a gear like this being put into one of our cars!! especially an M6 car! the damn ring gear has also worn a small groove into the cover!

the cover diddnt even have a gasket on it, just silicon, maby this is why it was rubbing?? damn this sucks the choad

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Well..... now if you want to go to a 3.23 or better you will need either a new carrier, spacer, or a thick gear.
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what if it has the stock stuff just a 3.08 ring and pinion set? couldnt i just put 4.10's or 3.42's in it? just like if it had never been touched from the factoy, only a different gear set thrown in it.

the these gears have always whined from about 45-70, and there does seem to be some slack. i can move the backtire back and forth and there is some slack between the ring and pinion. could this mean the depth is not set right?

damn the 10-bolt and all the people who have worked on mine
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No, you would have to change some things. Whoever changed it before had to change the case already.
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Just buy a 3.42 complete rear.

They go pretty cheap, cheaper than paying someone to change out the gears (unless you can do it yourself, in which case just ignore this).




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