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Old 10-06-2005, 10:45 PM
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I know that the corvette IRS (independent rear suspension) will not go into an fbod w/o some in depth fabrication and $$$$, but does anyone know if a GTO IRS will go into an fbody? Or do the gto and corvette both use the same suspension? My goal is to put IRS in my 2000 WS6, if practical.
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Why? I think you'll definatley have traction issues then.
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I dont plan on making it a drag car. Mostly DD/autox. But how would the IRS give me traction issues?
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Wheelhop!
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Why would that be an issue in the fbody but not in the corvette or gto?
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Last I knew, the GTOs wheelhop pretty badly. They are also not very strong, with a bad habit of breaking axle stubs on the GTO.
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I didnt know that. I guess that I will look for a 12 bolt or 9 in then
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I think it would be A LOT easier. And definitly stronger.
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The GTO IRS is on the weak side, as has already been mentioned. The GTO guys would love to have a 12 bolt, which is really what you should consider. The 12 bolt is lighter than a 9 inch, and uses up less horsepower. Unless you're mostly a pure strip car with over 600 rwhp, the 12 bolt is a great choice. Bob
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both can be done..but it isn't practical cost wise..unless your fabricating everything yourself.
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I've not seen a IRS-equipped car make one decent pass down a dragstrip. I know you're not going to drag race the car, but even the Trans Am series race cars don't use IRS.
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The GTO IRS is very similar in the center section to the 3rd gen 9 bolt. They are stonger than the 7.5/7.6, but just barely. Add in the IRS and there goes the extra strength.
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GTO's do have bad wheel hop i used to work at a dealer and had to drive an '04 somewhere (wasn't a customers car). well i was driving and went WOT at a really slow roll like around maybe 20mph. And it felt as if the back tires were going to shoot right off the car. I easily prefer my 10 bolt, than the IRS that comes in the GTO.
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Originally Posted by y2k_ta
I've not seen a IRS-equipped car make one decent pass down a dragstrip. I know you're not going to drag race the car, but even the Trans Am series race cars don't use IRS.
But surely there is a reason for this? Regulations or budget perhaps? The ALMS/Rolex Sports Car Series cars use IRS (IIRC). And the C5R/C6R don't convert to solid axles.
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Originally Posted by DrkPhynx
But surely there is a reason for this? Regulations or budget perhaps? The ALMS/Rolex Sports Car Series cars use IRS (IIRC). And the C5R/C6R don't convert to solid axles.
Correct!! The Trans Am series rules forbade the use of IRS. In fact, they were required to use a Detroit Locker as well (over a tuned, better for their application, limited slip). That being said a soild rear axle CAN BE made to handle quite well.
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Companies do make a ford 9 inch center section for the new Camaro an gto irs systems. You could go that route if you still wanted better handling.
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Originally Posted by Amac1978
Companies do make a ford 9 inch center section for the new Camaro an gto irs systems. You could go that route if you still wanted better handling.
Yes, and then he could use the great-for-handling Wavetrac diff, among others, BUT it would probably cost him more than the Blue Book value of the car.
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Originally Posted by dailydriver
Correct!! The Trans Am series rules forbade the use of IRS. In fact, they were required to use a Detroit Locker as well (over a tuned, better for their application, limited slip). That being said a soild rear axle CAN BE made to handle quite well.
I'll add to this by saying a solid axle on leaf springs can even be made to handle very well. Thakfully, I've got a 8.5 inch 10-bolt, so weakness really isn't an issue.
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Wow, check out the date the OP started this thread. lol Bob
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