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Old 07-20-2006, 10:52 PM
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I heard that the top of the line 09 will be called Z28, instead off SS. Because of Chevy calling alot of vehicles SS now, like the trailblazer, and cobalt, etc. I think this is a good idea, SS seems to have lost its meaning lately, but Z28 still stands high. What do you all think?
Old 07-20-2006, 10:55 PM
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Agree completely with you I think it's BS what GM is doing to the SS symbol. When I think of SS I think of a big cubed, high hp, bad A$$ GM product not a freakin trailblazer or Cobalt
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First honestly who cares if its nice its nice right?Call it a hzomat! if its the top trim that doesn't matter to me.

SS sells cars I'd be shocked to see z28 be a higher trim. Where did you hear this info?
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Originally Posted by Ace$nyper
First honestly who cares if its nice its nice right?Call it a hzomat! if its the top trim that doesn't matter to me.

SS sells cars I'd be shocked to see z28 be a higher trim. Where did you hear this info?
I hope they do make the Z28 the top one, back in the 60's the Z28 was the bad boy and the SS was just below that. I think that would be great if GM did that go back to way it was. I don't think that the SS name is being over used at all its like the SVT and SRT for ford and dodge, SS has alot more history than those.
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Z/28 should always be the top dog!!! Good job, now just give it an LS7!!!

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Originally Posted by Adam_LS1_Z28
back in the 60's the Z28 was the bad boy and the SS was just below that.
No... The Z28 had the little 302 and was the homologation special for Trans Am.

It was a cool car, no doubt, but it wasn't the top dog.

Here's some info on it:
(from Musclecarclub.com)

In December 1966, Chevrolet then quietly released one of the most famous options codes of all time, option Z-28. Unpublicized and unknown by most of the buying public (and most Chevrolet sales people for that matter) and not mentioned in any sales literature, the only way someone could order the Z-28 package was to order a base Camaro with the Z-28 option, mandatory front disc brakes with power assist, and the Muncie 4-speed transmission. You could not order the SS package, automatic transmission, air conditioning, or the convertible. What you got was a unique 302 cid small block (Non-California emission cars were labeled MO while California emission engines were labeled MP) that was created by taking the 327 block and installing the short-stroke 283 crank. Specifically designed to compete in the Club of America Trans Am racing series which placed a 305 cid limit on its entries, the Z-28 was available to the public solely to qualify the car for racing. Advertised horsepower was listed at just 290bhp, which was not very impressive until one hooked it up to a dyno and got actual readings of 360-400 bhp. The Z-28 also came with a competition suspension, broad racing stripes on the hood and trunklid and could be combined with the RS option package. There was no Z-28 badging at all, lest it attract to much attention. The Z-28 proved to be difficult to launch on the street because its high reving engine was lethargic under 4000rpm and worked best when it was shifted at 7500rpm (!). Once it got going, the Z28 was tough to beat and boosted a 140mph top speed and numerous racing victories. Only 602 Z-28s were sold in 1967, making it a truly desirable collectable.
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ZL1 would be nice
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Z28 of the late 60s was the racecar, SS was the cruiser.
I think they might be returning to that heritage.

When Z28 and SS were both offered back then, SS was NOT always tops in power.
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Also, remember this famous quote:

"Any Chevy can be an SS... only a Camaro can be a Z28!"
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Originally Posted by Adam_LS1_Z28
I hope they do make the Z28 the top one, back in the 60's the Z28 was the bad boy and the SS was just below that. I think that would be great if GM did that go back to way it was. I don't think that the SS name is being over used at all its like the SVT and SRT for ford and dodge, SS has alot more history than those.
Don't wanna start anything but SVT isnt over used Lightning, Cobra, Ford GT......These are all bad *** vehicles with very good performance. Sorry I know its off topic but I have to defend Ford when I can
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The Z28 could be top of the line, but will it be faster? I read in GM High Tech Performance that there are rumors that the Camaro SS will get the supercharged LS9 along with the Corvette SS.

Z2what?
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Top of the line should be an SS.

SS's are kewler then Z28s anyway.
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SS is chevy's performance lineup (even though not all perform that well). I think they will leave it the way it was most recently. It's what I would prefer.

ZL1 should be made though and it should be the top.

Z28 > GT 320-350 hp
SS > Cobra type car 400-450 hp
ZL1 > GT500 500-550 hp
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Actually 67-69 Z/28s could do serious damage to anything with an SS badge in its day.

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FWIW, "Corvette SS" is old news...
The car formerly known as "Blue Devil" is now known as Corvette Stingray.
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Originally Posted by OctaneZ28
FWIW, "Corvette SS" is old news...
The car formerly known as "Blue Devil" is now known as Corvette Stingray.
Do you mean internally or the nickname tossed around by the magazines?
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Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
SS is chevy's performance lineup (even though not all perform that well). I think they will leave it the way it was most recently. It's what I would prefer.

ZL1 should be made though and it should be the top.

Z28 > GT 320-350 hp
SS > Cobra type car 400-450 hp
ZL1 > GT500 500-550 hp

Jon has it right...

Does anyone seriously think GM would go AGAINST THEIR OWN MARKETING and make the SS badge inferior to another badge (Z28)?!?!?

They're obviously trying to jump on the "SRT", "SVT" wagon of the other companies and have a badge synonymous with performance (although the other companies put the badges on cars that ACTUALLY PERFORM ).
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Originally Posted by DEMONBIRD
Jon has it right...

Does anyone seriously think GM would go AGAINST THEIR OWN MARKETING and make the SS badge inferior to another badge (Z28)?!?!?

They're obviously trying to jump on the "SRT", "SVT" wagon of the other companies and have a badge synonymous with performance (although the other companies put the badges on cars that ACTUALLY PERFORM ).
What do you mean like that the SS they offer are nomrally a good deal ahead of the pack with what ever class they are in.

You bring up a good point SS sells cars why change it?
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Yea, that would be weird having the SS being top dog one year and Z28 the next, Thats gonna confuse the hell outta newbies just getting into the game, lol.
I honestly dont care which is top of the line though, i just want the camaro back out, im gonna be needing a new one soon
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This topic has been debated since the end of the 4th Gen.

But it's always fun to talk about anyway.


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