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Old 09-24-2013, 04:20 PM
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I have a 2002 SS mint condition, under 4,000 miles.

okay, here is the problem... I am wanting to do a head and cam build on her.

what do you guys think ? should I keep it all origanal and stock or build it the way GM should have?

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Damn don't see too many with those miles. But cars are meant to be driven, build her up
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i voted to keep it as is.
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It'll hurt the value but if you plan on keeping the car and want some power then go for it. In the end its just a toy and it was made to haul ***.
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Originally Posted by 97camaro383
It'll hurt the value but if you plan on keeping the car and want some power then go for it. In the end its just a toy and it was made to haul ***.
If you bought the car as an investment, keep it stock. If you bought it to burn rubber, build it.

There isn't really a "correct" answer on this one.
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Originally Posted by M4N14C
If you bought the car as an investment, keep it stock. If you bought it to burn rubber, build it.

There isn't really a "correct" answer on this one.
AGREED!!! Its really up to what you want to get out of the car.
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Some seriously low miles there, however if you really want a stout H/C combo I don't see why you shouldn't do it, although I'm sure the car is fantastic as it sits with only 4k on it.
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thanks guys, Its such a perfect example of the end of the 4th gen. I still have all the documentation on it from before it was even ordered. I have black out the windows with 5%.

im just torn between selling it and finding a 50000 mile car and let a collector have this one. It is a red hardtop, leather and 6speed.
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Originally Posted by M4N14C
There isn't really a "correct" answer on this one.
I agree. Cars are meant to be used however their owners' see fit. There's nothing wrong with having a seldom driven stock garage queen and there's nothing wrong with having a race car, nor anything inbetween. Just a matter of preference.

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im just torn between selling it and finding a 50000 mile car and let a collector have this one. It is a red hardtop, leather and 6speed.
If you would be equally happy with a 50k mile car for your purposes, then I suggest you sell this one and use the cash difference between the two as the basis for your engine build.

A 4k mile SS will certainly bring some decent money from a collector, and is worth considerably more than the same car with 50k miles. You should have several thousands of dollars left in your pocket on this trade - plenty for a decent build on the 50k mile one. Might take a bit of time to move a collector car of this price range though.
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keep it and buy a high mileage ***** to build up...makes no sense to molest a 4k original mile SS.
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thanks guys for all the advice. She will be a garage queen as it has been regardless of what I plan on doing with it. I already have a nice cam kit sitting in the floor from TSP and have been talking with Phil from AI.

I guess I will just put it up forsale and see what happens. If it sales I guess it wasn't meant for me to build it up, if not here comes a bad a** build!

Kinglt-1 nice car, mine is a hard top also, looks identical except I have zr1's, and its an SS. I don't think I have seen your car around town.
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
keep it and buy a high mileage ***** to build up...makes no sense to molest a 4k original mile SS.

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Dont build the 4k mile one up. One of the few left .
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Just a personal decision for you to make. It's your car and the only important thing you need to realize is that you will be lowering the value of your car once you start modding it. If you need to sell it in a year for some unseen reason, modding it will have been a big mistake. Most collectors won't buy a modded car. That's reality. Are there exceptions? Of course, but good luck finding that person.
One other important factor right now is that we are entering the holiday season, as hard as that is to believe. That means slow car sales in general. Although a 4,000 miles SS should sell anytime of the year it will have to be priced right. $19,000+ will be a likely price range if the car is a one or two owner in excellent condition. It should be 'excellent' but I've seen beaten cars with 3,000 miles on them. Patience will be key. Buyers aren't knocking down sellers doors to buy these F-bodies at those prices but eventually they do sell. Dealerships sell quality sub 5,000 miles F-bodies regularly in the lower 20's so a 'private party' sale will be very possible as well. If you do sell, GLWS!!
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I'd say keep the 4k mile ss stock, and buy a higher mileage ss or ws6 build that one up
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I'm going with the "sell this one; buy a higher-mileage one" for this question. I also agree that it's your car to do with what you wish, but if you're feeling any apprehension because of it's near-new quality, then sell it to someone who will appreciate it as-is. You'll definitely sell it for a bit more than you'll need to pay for one with 50k miles -- and you can still find a very clean car with higher miles.
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Originally Posted by NC01TA
It should be 'excellent' but I've seen beaten cars with 3,000 miles on them.
I agree with this concept. Just because the mileage is ultra-low doesn't mean that the car is automatically a top tier example. But with this low of mileage, it's usually just a matter of needing a show/competition-level detailing to properly present the car for top tier value.

For example, I saw a 7k mile WS6 Trans Am last weekend at one of my usual events. I suspected that it was very low mileage based on certain details (such as the hats and edges on the original rotors being free from any wear or rust, and the healthy glow of the original caliper & bracket finishes), but to the average eye it looked like a 30-40k mile car rather than the 7k miles that it actually had. In this case, it was all in the detailing (or lack thereof). Point being, if you DO intend to sell the car at top tier pricing, make sure that the car is properly detailed to appear as a 4k mile car should (highly detailed engine bay/jambs/trim/weather strips, clean wheel wells and undercarrige, and the obvious stuff like perfectly detailed paint and interior, etc.) These things are important to collectors because they indicate a car that has always lived the life of a show car, thus worthy of premium pricing respective to the mileage.

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In factory stock form at this age, I vote to keep it stock and spend a little to get the next one for racing. Maybe just sell it and buy another with "normal" wear and tear so as to keep a rare bird ... rare. In the end, do what you want with it, but keep in mind, it will never be factory stock again once you change things.
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IMO, if you can get what you want for it then sell it. Otherwise modify it and just make sure to keep all the original part you removed so it can easily returned back to stock later if you want to.
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I personally wouldn't tear apart an original 4k mile ls1 but then I probably wouldn't tamper with such a low miles example car either other than minor easily reversible bolt on stuff

But if your going to do it... buy another engine to put your heads on and cam in and keep every stock part that gets removed - mod it in a manner that you could put it back to stock to recoup your investment.

As others have said plenty of 3,000 dollar 4th gens out there you can mod the crap out of with no guilt


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