Cambo3

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I see shorties all the time for cheap money. So I was thinking of getting a set along with the ssw ory. I know everyone will say long tubes but I don't want to. If I ever sell the car there is a good chance I would take this stuff off. The car only has 44,xxx miles so I don't want to go crazy with the car. Do you think the shorties and ory will give me around 15-20hp. After the shorties and the ory I would only and to do a tune then at some time an intake manifold. I would like hot between 360 and 375hp, I dynoed 326/326 at slow hawk with a slp lid, potz tb, and slp lm2. I feel those number can be hit. Let the feed back begin!

z-maro

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Just wondering what your reasons for not wanting LT's are? If you have any emissions an ORY is just illegal, so thats a wash... I guess ground clearance can suffer a little which could be a problem if you have a very low car. But if I was going to go through all that work I sure would want the added benefits of the LT's.

Cambo3

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I am going to lower the car so that's a little of it. If I go to sell the car I could easily take the shorties off and the ory. Lt I would have to pay someone. The price of the shorties $150, ssw ory $400, tune I will say $400-500. So say $1,000 and $1,400ish if I do a intake manifold. Get the car into 12.5-12.8? Lower and a little extra help with handling I'm happy.

RPM WS6

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The '00-'02 exhaust manifolds already flow better than the '98-'99 version, so shorties won't do much on an '00+ car.

If you're looking for 360-375rwhp, you likely won't find it by adding shorties/ORY, intake and a tune if you're only at 326rwhp right now. With LTs you'd have a shot at the low end of that range though.

Cambo3

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Well I was thinking shorties 5hp, ory 5-10hp intake manifold 10( ls6/bbk) and a good tune 10-20hp, so 30hp on low side and 45hp on high side. Are those hp guesses that crazy?

RPM WS6

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With shorties, the other mods won't be worth as much either.

I think a 20-25rwhp gain would be a more likely expectation for that combo.

z-maro

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It's your car and your money, but I would recommend strongly considering LT's. You could spend the same amount of money on LT's and a ORY with brands like Speed Engineering, BBK, or ebay LT's and get more power. I installed LT's with just jack stands, all I removed from the car was the oil filter. My car is lowered and I have never noticed it scraping (but there are some light scratches on it). If that is a concern the BBK system has a smaller 2.5" Y-pipe.

StripedZebra

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I dont think the install/removal is going to be much different between shorties/lts. Just do the lts. I had an LT1 car with a 2.5" drop with LTs and it really isnt too much of an issue.

I dont see 360 happening with shorties.

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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shorties arent worth the effort imo.

Cambo3

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Just wondering goes anyone have numbers with shorties on?

99Bluz28

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Consider the BBK LT headers and ORY-pipe. The fitment is really good and so is the ground clearance, plus you can't beat the price. FYI, I've had the BBK system on my car for several yrs and the ground clearance is as good as stock or better! The only down side is that the system isn't stainless steel, if that's even an issue for you.
Now, if you're still set on going with shorty's, then just stick with the stock manifolds and the SW ORY-pipe for about the same price as the BBK system.

http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...ystem-chrome-/
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...stem-ceramic-/

Here's my lowered Z28 with the BBK setup.
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w...earance003.jpg
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w...earance001.jpg

jimmyblue

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There's shorties, and there's shorties. Quality of design
is very poor indeed on the eBay cheapos I bought. Nice
on the JBAs I installed. With said JBAs, the headers are
an insignificant contributor to back pressure which is all
you can ask of pipe too short to resonate.

I went back to shorties because I didn't like how the
long tubes messed up closed loop operation. I do not
miss the long tubes. My setup spends no time in areas
where long tubes build out torque.

Installing the shorties took less time than removing
the long tubes. And I can get at the damn #8 plug.

Silvy6.0

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^^^^^^^^

Cambo3

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I was looking at the jba's and then get an ory. There is one in my area with a y pipe and high flow cats for $500. I was thinking of just getting the headers and get the ssw ory for $400. So with the headers I'm looking at $550. Or just get the system for sale by me?

thunderstruck507

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just get the offroad pipe and save the cost of the shorties for something that will actually gain you a little like a used underdrive pulley