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Old 02-15-2007, 08:21 AM
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My car has been sitting since Sunday night, cold temps, hovering around freezing (it was snowing/sleeting so it couldn't have been insanely low), with about 1/4 tank left. Was gonna get gas yesterday, but nothing was cleared (no salt on roads, don't think I'd have made it far). How long does a car have to sit with temps HOW cold to have the gas freeze in the lines? I didn't worry about it until I saw the phrase tossed around in another thread and got to thinking. Thanks.

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It's not really about duration but duration below a certain temp.

Freezing as in 0 degrees C or 32 degrees F is the freezing point for WATER H2O not for petrol. Petrol will not freeze until temps much much lower. Not sure of the exact temp but put it this way the rubber of your tyres will also probably have frozen, gone brittle and shattered.

Diesel is a little different and I think it can start to freeze around -5 degrees C or so.
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
It's not really about duration but duration below a certain temp.

Freezing as in 0 degrees C or 32 degrees F is the freezing point for WATER H2O not for petrol. Petrol will not freeze until temps much much lower. Not sure of the exact temp but put it this way the rubber of your tyres will also probably have frozen, gone brittle and shattered.

Diesel is a little different and I think it can start to freeze around -5 degrees C or so.
Gotcha, I figured it didn't freeze at 32*, but wasn't sure exactly WHAT temp it did freeze at (hey I'm no chemist ) Thanks a lot.

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you dont have to worry about your gas freezing...i highly doubt temps will drop to large negatives for any duration...it takes alot for gas to freeze
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Originally Posted by lastcall190
Gotcha, I figured it didn't freeze at 32*, but wasn't sure exactly WHAT temp it did freeze at (hey I'm no chemist ) Thanks a lot.

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ok not certain but I think petrol has a freezing point somewhere around -40 to -70 degrees C.

It would also take time to freeze and need to be exposed. In an engine bay or fuel tank or under the car the temps will be higher than outside.
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Good God... alright can I assume that unless exposed to some pretty EXTREME conditions, this doesn't happen all that often and I'm worrying for nothing?

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Cheap gas has a higher tendency to freeze.
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Originally Posted by y2k_ta
Cheap gas has a higher tendency to freeze.
Care to add some numbers to that?
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i read last week about gas freezing at something like -94*F but it depends how much moisture and ethanol among other ingredeints is in the gasoline as well. the coolant is most likely going to freeze befor the gasoline in the lines does.
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ok seriously people.....ill throw a little history out there....during WWII gasoline and diesel didnt freeze until the coldest of tempatures in RUSSIA....i tell you what when it gets as cold in jersey as it does in russia....then you can start worryn...
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lol @ bob barker(nice avatar). ive only seen an issue with diesel in these temps(under -2X deg celcius - the bastard just wouldnt start without being plugged in), never with fuel, and weve had temps as low as -27ish in the past few days....celcius not F, and no worries at all
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Last few weeks here in northern IL have been stupid cold. We had daytime highs in the single digits (F) and nighttime lows around -11 to -7 F. For a few of those nights I had only about 1/4 tank of gas in my daily driver, and it started just fine.

You'd have to have a lot of moisture in your gas tank/lines to actually develop a freezing condition.
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Originally Posted by staringback05
you realize -27c is way the hell cold....like ummm space cold....i mean i can buy the -27f....


0*F is about -18*C.

-27*C = -16*F
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MY FAULT.....barker cant catch everything, i have it backwards....
-27f = -32.7777777c
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Originally Posted by staringback05
MY FAULT.....barker cant catch everything, i have it backwards....
LOL!!



Bob Barker is getting OLD! LOL.
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http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0124/p07s02-woeu.html

i wonder if this bastards gas freezes.......FTMFW
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its not the gas you need to worry about. it is the water in the gas from condensation or cheap gas or from being the lucky bastard to get the bottom of the tank gas when you fill up. put in a bottle of dry gas and head down the road
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
Care to add some numbers to that?
With cheap gas, you're taking a greater risk of getting water with the gas.

I know several people who've bought no-name cheap gas and have had problems during the Winter.
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Just got 30 bucks from exxon a few minutes ago, car started up great and no issues. Now the car is a lot happier. LS1 LOVES the cold temps!

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Best way to store your car is with some Stable and a full tank. With a full tank you have more gas, less water. ******* condesation (however you spell it) I think gas freezes at about -60F, I know at them temps a unprotected forehead will knock you out and kill you in about 5 to 10 minutes.



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