Are LS1's worth it?
02-22-2007, 10:27 PM
#1
Are LS1's worth it? It seems that my 355 is getting sick and tired of its "power adder" N20 lol and its in need of a replacement...So im purchasing another car and working on this problem.
Now im thinking about doing a typical Lsx swap into a first-gen camaro and seen the pics, build ups and result of it. Now how much better are the Lsx engines then the Lt1,4 engines? Would it be cheaper to do an Lt1 swap but which will give me the best bang for my buck? and either way im going with a t56 from a used viper i acquired
Now im thinking about doing a typical Lsx swap into a first-gen camaro and seen the pics, build ups and result of it. Now how much better are the Lsx engines then the Lt1,4 engines? Would it be cheaper to do an Lt1 swap but which will give me the best bang for my buck? and either way im going with a t56 from a used viper i acquired
02-22-2007, 10:32 PM
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im assuming you race on a road course/autocross/etc. if you have that suspension set up. IMO, id say an LS1 is worth it in your case just because of the saved weight and the higher rpm hp. or if you want to stay with older tech, id go with the new gm LS2 crate thats carbed. makes 450 hp for $5500 and its all aluminum. just a thought.
02-22-2007, 10:34 PM
#3
I thought I remember reading that a LT1 will swap if older cars better b/c its still a 4 bolt main, But an LS1 will give you less weight and better power throughout the RPM range, and yea if it was up to me it would be worth the swap
02-22-2007, 10:36 PM
#4
Originally Posted by violent_celerity
im assuming you race on a road course/autocross/etc. if you have that suspension set up.
haha nope but it sure is funny to see vette owners faces after i stick with them on windy roads
and about the saved weight i shaved a little over 100 with my fiberglass hood weighting in at 24 lbs, but im hoping to not spend more the 5k max with this if i go lsx.
02-22-2007, 10:40 PM
#7
my car is about as far from old school except the body lol i got tired of seeing caged and full dragged 69' camaros that never see the street, so i built the perfect pro-touring 69...well not perfect but its gets the job more then done. No body shake over 150mph and with the right tires i bet it could pull 1 g on a skid pad. im trying to get the weight ratio as close to 50/50 as possible so an ls1 sounds like the way to go with weight savings
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02-22-2007, 10:42 PM
#8
Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
I thought I remember reading that a LT1 will swap if older cars better b/c its still a 4 bolt main, But an LS1 will give you less weight and better power throughout the RPM range, and yea if it was up to me it would be worth the swap
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02-22-2007, 10:46 PM
#10
Originally Posted by Justin00SS
What does the 4 bolt-main have to do with anything?
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02-22-2007, 10:48 PM
#11
Originally Posted by whytryz28
Honestly it has nothing to do with the swap im attenpting to do, i think what he was trying to say is that instead of a 2-bolt main the Lt1 has 4 making it a better swap. But the Callaway Corvette has gottem me nearly sold on LT engines that thing is SICK! lol
Go with the LS1 and vic Jr. carb intake. Ease of tuning and install.
Oh and less weight.
02-22-2007, 10:48 PM
#12
Originally Posted by jamesSS
yes they are worth it. id go with the ls2. you can always stroke it out to a 402 and spray that thing again. nice car btw.
Thanks but it doesnt look like that anymore lol Its black with silver Corvette zr-1 stripes on the fender, and the new SS style scoop hood instead of a standard cowl in fiberglass and its gonna have chrome z06 wheels on it soon as my tires come in, 17x9.5 front and 18x9.5 rears.
02-22-2007, 10:51 PM
#13
Originally Posted by whytryz28
how would i set the timing since the distributor is kinda MIA?!?! haha and im just looking for around 450-500 daily hp nothing to crazy, if i want to go crazy then ill just take the TT V10 engine outa my dads viper and weld it directly into my car
Oh and the tuning is all in the vaccum lines.
02-22-2007, 10:56 PM
#17
If I was going for a pro touring 1st gen, I would go LSx power no question.
For cost/ease of parts, and good deals on complete packages, a f-car pullout is the way to go, sure a LS2 is nice, but expensive.
A LS1 powered 1st gen, will typically have a much higher value than a LT1 swapped first gen camaro. The prices 1st gen cars with lsx powerplants (and pro touring setups) is crazy.
Ryan
For cost/ease of parts, and good deals on complete packages, a f-car pullout is the way to go, sure a LS2 is nice, but expensive.
A LS1 powered 1st gen, will typically have a much higher value than a LT1 swapped first gen camaro. The prices 1st gen cars with lsx powerplants (and pro touring setups) is crazy.
Ryan
02-22-2007, 10:58 PM
#18
Originally Posted by slow
If I was going for a pro touring 1st gen, I would go LSx power no question.
For cost/ease of parts, and good deals on complete packages, a f-car pullout is the way to go, sure a LS2 is nice, but expensive.
A LS1 powered 1st gen, will typically have a much higher value than a LT1 swapped first gen camaro. The prices 1st gen cars with lsx powerplants (and pro touring setups) is crazy.
Ryan
For cost/ease of parts, and good deals on complete packages, a f-car pullout is the way to go, sure a LS2 is nice, but expensive.
A LS1 powered 1st gen, will typically have a much higher value than a LT1 swapped first gen camaro. The prices 1st gen cars with lsx powerplants (and pro touring setups) is crazy.
Ryan
Yea thats true, i guess that explains why ive seen only ls1 vette engines in them...price huh.
oh and this thing handles like a dream, never thought a uni-body without subframe connectors could hold its own against an IRS car... guess i know how to tune suspension very well
