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Old 03-28-2008, 11:29 AM
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I thought this was interesting.



I don't know what you guys and gals are paying for gasoline.... but
> here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But
> my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some
> tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon..
>
> Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA. we
> deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One
> day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium
> grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000
> gallons.
>
> Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the
> ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have
> their storage tanks buried below grou nd. Th e colder the ground the more
> dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the
> afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the
> petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the
> gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an
> important role.
>
> A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But
> the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
>
> When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a
> fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)stages:
> low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed,
> thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All
> hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate,
> some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are
> being su cked u p and back into the underground storage tank so
> you're getting
> less worth for your money.
>
> One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is
> HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in
> your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster
> than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof.
> This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it
> minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every
> truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is
> actually the exact amount.
>
> Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the
> storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the
> gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might
> pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this
> will hel p you get the most value for your money.
>
> DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!
>
> WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON
>
> Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It
> might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We
> should return the favor.
>
> An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.
>
> Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into
> the coffers of Saudi Arabia . Just buy from gas companies that don't import
> their oil from the Saudis.
>
> Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up
> the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my
> family, and my friends.
>
> I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies
> are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern
> oil.
>
> These companies import Middle Eastern oil:
>
> Shell. ...... .................... 205,742,000 barrels
>
> Chevron/Texaco...... ... 144,332,000 barrels
>
> Exxon/Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
>
> Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
>
> Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels
>
> Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans.
> If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION!
> (oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel
>
> Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
>
> Sunoco..................0 barrels
>
> Conoco..................0 barrels
>
> Sinclair..................0 barrels
>
> BP/Phillips.............0 barrels
>
> Hess......................0 barrels
>
> ARC0.....................0 barrels
>
> If you go to Sunoco.com ; , you will get a list of
> the station locations near you.
>
> All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and
> each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
> importing.
Old 03-28-2008, 11:35 AM
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interesting but i thought bp was ammoco gas now?
Old 03-28-2008, 11:39 AM
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Interesting didn't know some of that.
Old 03-28-2008, 12:19 PM
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I dont really know alot about gas so all of that was news to me. Helpfull news too...esp when I'm driving 80 miles a day.
Old 03-28-2008, 12:27 PM
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I knew about the filling up in the morning thing... but the low setting on the pump makes a lot of sense! Unfortunately there are no sunoco stations in my area so shell is pretty much my only option for clean gas...
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thank you for the information, I will definitely apply the tips you have mentioned
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Good info....thanks.
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Good advise!!
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I wonder how much that actually helps though.. I mean ok..so leave ur gas on a low setting to fill up. Great I can now get 5more miles to the tank for waiting 20min for it to fill. I mean seriously...lol
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http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/gastips.asp
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yea someone posted that on one of my other sites and said it originated as a myspace bulliton...lol sounds pretty much like BS to me, and I thought BP and ammaco were pretty much the same thing or at least co owned. Why would one import a ton of oil and the other not import any. And im with fccs for how much that actually helps Id rather just spend the .0005 cents more get my gas quick and call myself a baller. Also most of the gas tanks are burried undergroud like 10 feet if I remember right, and the temps dont change as drastically that far underground. The only decent part of that whole this is if you see a refueling truck to go somewhere else b/c I can imagine when they pour that in the tank it can stir up dirt and crap at the bottom
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Nice writeup.
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We have been buy hess gas for years. We switched from exxon/mobil.
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Gas volumes are corrected to 15*c(whatever that is in *f) at all gas stations here, otherwise youd be gettin a portion of the gas in the summer vs. the winter
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Does anyone know what flying J or Maverick gas is? As in where/who owns it and where they get their gas?
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what about 76 do they use middle eastern oil?
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good deal dude never thought of the tanker mixing up sediments from the bottom of the tank
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The part about fill up when you have atleast a half tank is BS too. Yes gas does evaporate very quickly, you can see the fumes rise from a puddle on a hot day. But your gas tank is a sealed system, when there's pressure in the tank from the gases, it uses the EVAP system to burn those vapors in your engine too. So you're not losing gallons of gas due to evaporation.
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The original post is just internet Spam. My hat is off to Dave 96TA for actually checking it out on Snopes. I do that with every 'helpful' e-mail and most of them turn out to be manufactured and false, or only partly true.
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oil and gas biz here



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