brake lights issues
11-22-2010, 10:37 PM
#1
brake lights issues I searched and found people w similar problems but not exact
When my headlights are on, my brake lights on the passenger side and passenger side turn signal do not work at all. the running lights work, just not the brake and signal on that side
I had the car inspected a month ago and all the bulbs in that side were swapped out for new ones in order to pass and I guess whatever is wrong has progressively gotten worse
The left side works fine as well as the fronts
Oh, and when the headlights are on, the left turn signal light in the dash stays lit up... Does this have anything to do w the problem above?
If it is a switch or fuse, break it down Barney style and tell me where its at and where I can get a new one ASAP... I don't want to get rear-ended tomorrow
When my headlights are on, my brake lights on the passenger side and passenger side turn signal do not work at all. the running lights work, just not the brake and signal on that side
I had the car inspected a month ago and all the bulbs in that side were swapped out for new ones in order to pass and I guess whatever is wrong has progressively gotten worse
The left side works fine as well as the fronts
Oh, and when the headlights are on, the left turn signal light in the dash stays lit up... Does this have anything to do w the problem above?
If it is a switch or fuse, break it down Barney style and tell me where its at and where I can get a new one ASAP... I don't want to get rear-ended tomorrow
11-23-2010, 11:43 AM
#4
90% probable that they put in the wrong bulbs, then. Even though the bulbs may look the same, they probably have the contacts in the wrong place and are the wrong wattage. If you change the left bulbs to the right and vice versa, you should see the problem switch sides.
11-23-2010, 08:30 PM
#5
I swapped bulbs from left to right, cleaned the sockets and applied dielectric grease and left the sockets unplugged from the housing. With the motor running and headlights OFF, blinkers and brake lights work just fine on both sides
However, as soon as I flip the headlights ON, the right side brake and blinker loses like 90 percent of their 'brightness'. The running light filament is nice and bright but the blinker/brake filament goes dim...so much, you can't see it through the lense
However, as soon as I flip the headlights ON, the right side brake and blinker loses like 90 percent of their 'brightness'. The running light filament is nice and bright but the blinker/brake filament goes dim...so much, you can't see it through the lense
11-23-2010, 09:58 PM
#6
I swapped bulbs from left to right, cleaned the sockets and applied dielectric grease and left the sockets unplugged from the housing. With the motor running and headlights OFF, blinkers and brake lights work just fine on both sides
However, as soon as I flip the headlights ON, the right side brake and blinker loses like 90 percent of their 'brightness'. The running light filament is nice and bright but the blinker/brake filament goes dim...so much, you can't see it through the lense
However, as soon as I flip the headlights ON, the right side brake and blinker loses like 90 percent of their 'brightness'. The running light filament is nice and bright but the blinker/brake filament goes dim...so much, you can't see it through the lense
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11-24-2010, 08:34 AM
#8
No, no rear accident... from what I can tell, the original owner went off roading at least once and cracked the front driver's side fender and scratched the passenger side ground effect but no unibody or subframe damage whatsoever
when we took the lights off the rear, the wiring all looked brand new and fresh from the factory... in fact, I'm fairly certain some of the bulbs we replaced were still original. Besides delaminating, the taillights are tight and completely waterproof. I couldnt see a hint of water or moisture damage to anywhere behind the lights both inside and outside the car.
If it is a ground issue, where do I need to look? I followed what I thought to be the ground screwed into the driver side of the rear latch(??) and all wires were solid with no kinking or damage to the sheath...
when we took the lights off the rear, the wiring all looked brand new and fresh from the factory... in fact, I'm fairly certain some of the bulbs we replaced were still original. Besides delaminating, the taillights are tight and completely waterproof. I couldnt see a hint of water or moisture damage to anywhere behind the lights both inside and outside the car.
If it is a ground issue, where do I need to look? I followed what I thought to be the ground screwed into the driver side of the rear latch(??) and all wires were solid with no kinking or damage to the sheath...
11-24-2010, 04:26 PM
#11
nothing...
I only found one ground on the entire back side of the car - it has 3 wires running to it. I removed the bolt, scuffed the body with some 100 grit, thin layer of dielectric grease on each of the grounds, and replaced the bolt
same damn thing
if I have the car 'on' and either blinker or brake going, the right side works fine... UNTIL I turn the running lights or head lights on and the respective brake/blinker filament loses 90% of its brightness. doesnt go out completely, just dim. ONLY when I turn the running lights or headlights on...
please help
I only found one ground on the entire back side of the car - it has 3 wires running to it. I removed the bolt, scuffed the body with some 100 grit, thin layer of dielectric grease on each of the grounds, and replaced the bolt
same damn thing
if I have the car 'on' and either blinker or brake going, the right side works fine... UNTIL I turn the running lights or head lights on and the respective brake/blinker filament loses 90% of its brightness. doesnt go out completely, just dim. ONLY when I turn the running lights or headlights on...
please help
11-24-2010, 09:41 PM
#12
I checked the factory manual and the ground is in the engine compartment. The right side is attached to the right radiator support and the left side is on the left radiator support. Go figure.
Have you checked the right front turn signal to see if it does similar things? (The lights are all wired through the DRL module.)
Have you checked the right front turn signal to see if it does similar things? (The lights are all wired through the DRL module.)
11-29-2010, 02:00 PM
#13
front turn signal works fine regardless of whether or not the headlights are on
I feel like a retard now... I went back to the shop that replaced my bulbs and asked what they put in and turns out they used 1156 (??) bulbs instead of the 2057... I'm picking up some this afternoon and I think that may fix the issue... we'll see
I feel like a retard now... I went back to the shop that replaced my bulbs and asked what they put in and turns out they used 1156 (??) bulbs instead of the 2057... I'm picking up some this afternoon and I think that may fix the issue... we'll see
Last edited by VinR1; 11-29-2010 at 02:31 PM.
11-29-2010, 03:34 PM
#14
front turn signal works fine regardless of whether or not the headlights are on
I feel like a retard now... I went back to the shop that replaced my bulbs and asked what they put in and turns out they used 1156 (??) bulbs instead of the 2057... I'm picking up some this afternoon and I think that may fix the issue... we'll see
I feel like a retard now... I went back to the shop that replaced my bulbs and asked what they put in and turns out they used 1156 (??) bulbs instead of the 2057... I'm picking up some this afternoon and I think that may fix the issue... we'll see
12-02-2010, 07:39 PM
#18
Success!! Despite the sockets looking great with the slightest hint of corrosion, I replaced them both and holy chit, now they're brighter than the left side. In fact, I'm swapping the other side tomorrow so they'll match. I pulled the harnesses apart ant the ground was almost rusted through.
I can finally sleep now (and drive at night)
I can finally sleep now (and drive at night)