General Maintenance & Repairs Leaks | Squeaks | Clunks | Rattles | Grinds

Rear Main Seal price estimate

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-31-2014, 03:10 PM
  #1  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
jlm_photo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: LA...Lower Alabama
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Rear Main Seal price estimate

Had a mechanic check out my leak today and discovered what feared it might be. The rear main and oil pan gasket are leaking. I'm not tackling it myself so I'm sure I might let him do it. Any idea on prices to have it done? Kinda wanted to know so I would not be going in blind. Thanks in advance!

Sent from my iPhone using IB AutoGroup
Old 03-31-2014, 05:35 PM
  #2  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (24)
 
smokenssz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bastop,TEXAS
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Most shops will cost you about 5hrs of labor for the oil pan but a buddy and mine knocked them both out in 2 1/2hrs
Old 03-31-2014, 07:00 PM
  #3  
12 Second Club
 
dailydriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Bucks County, Pa.
Posts: 4,273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I would think about doing the; clutch, flywheel, slave/throw out/pilot bearing, etc. (and maybe installing a Tick remote bleeder) IF you have a T56, and IF you did not just replace these recently.

It ALL has to come down/apart anyway, so why not save the labor?
Old 03-31-2014, 07:48 PM
  #4  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
jlm_photo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: LA...Lower Alabama
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by dailydriver
I would think about doing the; clutch, flywheel, slave/throw out/pilot bearing, etc. (and maybe installing a Tick remote bleeder) IF you have a T56, and IF you did not just replace these recently. It ALL has to come down/apart anyway, so why not save the labor?
Id love to do all that right now but really don't have the money. I know it's better to go ahead and do it but the clutch is working fine.

Sent from my iPhone using IB AutoGroup
Old 04-01-2014, 11:02 AM
  #5  
It's not mine! woo hoo!
iTrader: (7)
 
demonspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 7,128
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jlm_photo
Id love to do all that right now but really don't have the money. I know it's better to go ahead and do it but the clutch is working fine.
If it's not leaking much then I'd just run some thicker conventional oil for a bit. This way you can buy some more time until you can afford to do the clutch while it's all apart. I'm personally switching back from Mobil1 5w30 to VR1 20w50 partially for this reason.
Old 04-01-2014, 11:10 AM
  #6  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
jlm_photo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: LA...Lower Alabama
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by demonspeed
If it's not leaking much then I'd just run some thicker conventional oil for a bit. This way you can buy some more time until you can afford to do the clutch while it's all apart. I'm personally switching back from Mobil1 5w30 to VR1 20w50 partially for this reason.
He said it was leaking pretty bad. Crazy question though. I'd been running conventional/syn blend and when I switched to Mobil 1 full synthetic it started leaking. Would that have been the cause? Can I run a thicker oil and get by for a while?
Old 04-01-2014, 11:29 AM
  #7  
LS1Tech Administrator
iTrader: (3)
 
RPM WS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
Posts: 32,021
Likes: 0
Received 1,469 Likes on 1,059 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jlm_photo
He said it was leaking pretty bad. Crazy question though. I'd been running conventional/syn blend and when I switched to Mobil 1 full synthetic it started leaking. Would that have been the cause? Can I run a thicker oil and get by for a while?
Synthetic oil is a better lubricant that will get into places that conventional sometimes will not. In other words, synthetic doesn't cause leaks in healthy gaskets, but it may find a leak (or worsen a leak) in a marginal gasket that wasn't quite ready to leak yet with conventional oil.

I wouldn't worry about how bad your mechanic "says" it's leaking (after all, he would like to sell you the repair ASAP) and instead pay attention to how much oil it seems to be depositing on the ground and/or any loss that can be measured on the dipstick. I say this because the rear main was leaking on my '02 car for several years, made quite a mess on the bottom of the engine (looked like a bad leak) but only left a few drops on the ground occasionally and caused no additional drop in oil level between changes. So I just ignored the leak and it didn't get any worse during that period. If yours has recently started leaking there may not be any rush to repair it in the immediate future, if you would rather wait.
Old 04-01-2014, 11:39 AM
  #8  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
jlm_photo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: LA...Lower Alabama
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Synthetic oil is a better lubricant that will get into places that conventional sometimes will not. In other words, synthetic doesn't cause leaks in healthy gaskets, but it may find a leak (or worsen a leak) in a marginal gasket that wasn't quite ready to leak yet with conventional oil.

I wouldn't worry about how bad your mechanic "says" it's leaking (after all, he would like to sell you the repair ASAP) and instead pay attention to how much oil it seems to be depositing on the ground and/or any loss that can be measured on the dipstick. I say this because the rear main was leaking on my '02 car for several years, made quite a mess on the bottom of the engine (looked like a bad leak) but only left a few drops on the ground occasionally and caused no additional drop in oil level between changes. So I just ignored the leak and it didn't get any worse during that period. If yours has recently started leaking there may not be any rush to repair it in the immediate future, if you would rather wait.
Thank you. I'm thinking I'll wait and see how it does the next 2 oil changes.
Old 04-01-2014, 11:40 AM
  #9  
On The Tree
 
notsue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Fort Riley, Kansas
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RPM WS6
I wouldn't worry about how bad your mechanic "says" it's leaking (after all, he would like to sell you the repair ASAP) and instead pay attention to how much oil it seems to be depositing on the ground and/or any loss that can be measured on the dipstick. I say this because the rear main was leaking on my '02 car for several years, made quite a mess on the bottom of the engine (looked like a bad leak) but only left a few drops on the ground occasionally and caused no additional drop in oil level between changes. So I just ignored the leak and it didn't get any worse during that period. If yours has recently started leaking there may not be any rush to repair it in the immediate future, if you would rather wait.
This is how the leak on the front of mine is... horrible mess under the car, but never see anything on the driveway, and I'm not having to add any more oil than usual... so it can wait.
Old 04-01-2014, 07:03 PM
  #10  
12 Second Club
 
dailydriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Bucks County, Pa.
Posts: 4,273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

You could also try the Valvoline Max Life (red bottle) oil for a couple of OCIs (oil change intervals) in a thicker weight like 10W-40 (or even 5W-30 for a winter OCI), as some have actually seen their leaks slow down with this great oil, if not totally STOPPING the leak.

It is a partial/semi synthetic (they make a FULL synthetic version {silver bottle}, but it is usually even MORE coin than Mobil 1), and as a plus many have said their engines have been the quietest they've ever heard using this stuff.

If you want to stay full synthetic, the Mobil 1 HM (high mileage) oils are also excellent, and also contain seal swellers/conditioners, but it may not slow/stop the leak(s) as fast as the Ashland (Valvoline) Max Life product.
Old 04-02-2014, 10:11 AM
  #11  
It's not mine! woo hoo!
iTrader: (7)
 
demonspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 7,128
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

What all those people said ^^^

The synthetic just finds its way into everything. This doesn't mean it caused the leak; rather, just signaled that you've got one where the conventional wasn't able to find it.
Old 04-02-2014, 04:40 PM
  #12  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
jlm_photo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: LA...Lower Alabama
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by demonspeed
What all those people said ^^^

The synthetic just finds its way into everything. This doesn't mean it caused the leak; rather, just signaled that you've got one where the conventional wasn't able to find it.
Do I need to stay with a full synthetic or is it okay to switch back to conventional? I've only ran it for 1300 miles.
Old 04-02-2014, 05:03 PM
  #13  
12 Second Club
 
dailydriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Bucks County, Pa.
Posts: 4,273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jlm_photo
Do I need to stay with a full synthetic or is it okay to switch back to conventional? I've only ran it for 1300 miles.
You CAN switch back and forth from a full, or semi synthetic to a full mineral/conventional oil, and vice versa, with NO ill effects, or increased leaking, but personally, I think your best bet, both cost wise and functionally, is the Valvoline Max Life red bottle semi-synthetic (it is actually LESS coin than some of the full conventionals at Sino Mart).
Old 04-02-2014, 06:27 PM
  #14  
TECH Enthusiast
 
RJDio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: NearHouston, TX
Posts: 555
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by notsue
This is how the leak on the front of mine is... horrible mess under the car, but never see anything on the driveway, and I'm not having to add any more oil than usual... so it can wait.
Mine leaks same way from rear, and so does 2 of my fbody friend's cars. I'm wondering if all these cars leak oil lol
Old 04-03-2014, 11:33 AM
  #15  
It's not mine! woo hoo!
iTrader: (7)
 
demonspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 7,128
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by dailydriver
You CAN switch back and forth from a full, or semi synthetic to a full mineral/conventional oil, and vice versa, with NO ill effects, or increased leaking, but personally, I think your best bet, both cost wise and functionally, is the Valvoline Max Life red bottle semi-synthetic (it is actually LESS coin than some of the full conventionals at Sino Mart).
I agree -- you can switch without worry. I'm switching back to conventional this weekend after running the M1 for about 2000 miles. Valvoline VR1 20w50

Originally Posted by RJDio
Mine leaks same way from rear, and so does 2 of my fbody friend's cars. I'm wondering if all these cars leak oil lol
It's a common thing with all Gen III/IV engines. It's fortunately very minor, but annoying nonetheless.
Old 04-03-2014, 04:10 PM
  #16  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
jlm_photo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: LA...Lower Alabama
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I'll be taking this advice and switching back asap. Thanks again. Saved me some moolah!
Old 04-12-2014, 01:04 PM
  #17  
12 Second Club
 
JDEP162's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,550
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

ive learned that a small leak can look like the exxon valdez crash if conditions are right. summer and driving spread a few drops of oil very far. pour a capfull of oil on ur garage floor and see how big it gets in a week. ud be suprized.
Old 04-12-2014, 02:44 PM
  #18  
Pontiacerator
iTrader: (12)
 
RevGTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wichita KS / Rancho San Diego
Posts: 6,126
Received 194 Likes on 163 Posts

Default

First I had to put cardboard under the car to catch the drops - just a few here and there. When it starting puddling on the cardboard, I had to do something about it. So while a thicker dino oil might help for awhile, it's likely to get worse with time.

The techs at my buddy's shop did it for me. I think it took about 4 hours with two guys on the job at times.
Old 04-12-2014, 04:16 PM
  #19  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (37)
 
JRENIGAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: 72396
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

If you can pull the trans then you can replace the seal. Its that easy. Buy the whole rear cover from advance for less than $50 with the gasket and new seal already pressed in. Anyone intrested can P.M. me for an easy way to guarantee you get the rear cover and oil pan alignment right for no leaks at the rear seal or oil pan with no special alignment tools needed.



Quick Reply: Rear Main Seal price estimate



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:46 PM.