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Old 03-29-2009, 02:53 AM
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Question Going from BBK IM and Stock TB to 92/92 setup...

what kinda power gains do you guys think I'd make going from my BBK SSI intake manifold w/stock TB to a 92/92 setup (Fast and Nick Williams)?

mods are in my sig/sig pic

although I hate even imagining paying for that overpriced piece of plastic gold... it's really one of the only mods I have left on the table for this engine...

then my money will go elsewhere...
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I would think around 12-18 rwhp and similar tq.
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Originally Posted by 10secondZ
I would think around 12-18 rwhp and similar tq.
hmm.. i was hoping for more with that price tag.

i forgot to mention i'll most likely be getting it ported also
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i think instead of that youd get more power from a slightly larger cam, a friend of mine had that 224 cam on a 6.0 block too and it was so small it idled even untuned
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Originally Posted by ramairracer
i think instead of that youd get more power from a slightly larger cam, a friend of mine had that 224 cam on a 6.0 block too and it was so small it idled even untuned
trust me... i've been told to upgrade more times than I can count


problem is... i'll likely be moving to CA soon and i hear a 224 is the largest you can go and still pass emissions...
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isnt the bbk similar to ls6? if so I wouldn't expect over 15-20, maybe less
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Originally Posted by Soul TKR
trust me... i've been told to upgrade more times than I can count


problem is... i'll likely be moving to CA soon and i hear a 224 is the largest you can go and still pass emissions...
Like the long tubes are stopping you.

Im going with the VRX4 cam and thats a 228
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or u could also upgrade injectors. I had a friend who picked up 50rwhp on dyno with a retune after fast intake, 48 lb injectors and a 255lb fuel pump. Car was way faster. before different intake and mods he was at like 425 rwhp
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Originally Posted by sscamaro1384
or u could also upgrade injectors. I had a friend who picked up 50rwhp on dyno with a retune after fast intake, 48 lb injectors and a 255lb fuel pump. Car was way faster. before different intake and mods he was at like 425 rwhp
yea... i just upgraded my injectors a couple months ago... put some FAST 36#'rs in there
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Originally Posted by uLs1a
Like the long tubes are stopping you.

Im going with the VRX4 cam and thats a 228
yea... i mean technically, there's no way my entire engine will even come close to passing CA emissions

but if I add cats the the LT's and find a "dirty" emissions shop... that won't look at the whole "visual inspection" then if my car will perhaps pass the sniffer, hopefully I won't have a problem...

my cam 224/224 .581 .581 114LSA

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your cam 228/230 .588/.592 112 LSA
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If you are not going over 6500 with that cam , I dont think I would swap.

I seen a better dyno number with my ported fast 90 over my ls6 ported tb but never ran better at the track.

I may put a ls6 intake on my Trans am again and use the Fast 90 on my nova that spins to 7200.

I think bbk makes a 85 mm tb for that intake and so does Summit/trickflow . That is what I would do and just stay with the bbk.
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def port it

and with your power levels....on a 6L engine...you should EASILY see 20hp


as i've posted many times...i got 18hp at 6300rpm over my ls6...and i was making less than 400rwhp.

i have no doubt you'll pick up power in the lower rpm as well....like i did.
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good to know guys... i'm trying to get as close as possible to 500 rwhp then I think I'll be happy lol...

dunno if i'll be able to hit it... but I figure a 92/92 setup, and maybe a larger cam down the road might get me closer to it
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electric water pump...~10hp
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Originally Posted by teke184
electric water pump...~10hp
yea I dunno... $640 for 10hp (is that RW?) is kinda steep...

http://www.speedinc.com/cont.cfm?cid=C0000066
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got mine from summit for about $580 i think.

it is pretty pricey...but like YOU said...you're running out of things to modify for power.

engine will run cooler, and you'll gain from power
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youll prob see a 10 to 15 gain with that cam and switching to a fast i think im nearing the limit of the bbk i just got back from the dyno early today and made the nubers in my sig

im happy with them but theres ares for improvment i have the cam and heads to flow more but it kept peeking at 6300 on motor and 6000 on spray and droping off when i think my combo should be peeking at about 6600 to 6800 and hold its power to 7000 i like the bbk but i think thats whats holding it back
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your numbers are nothing to snease at. I think the bbk is doing good
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
your numbers are nothing to snease at. I think the bbk is doing good
That's what I was thinking. If I had 446.2rwhp I would be satisfied. Well no, after a while I guess I wouldn't LOL.



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