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Old 08-13-2009, 10:43 AM
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Default Thinking of alternatives for true dual

Has anybody ran a 3.5" or 4" custom Y-pipe off of their headers to the same size I-pipe...then down size to the 3" PowerFlo exhaust tube which splits almost immediately over the axle.



or go custom all the way with a similar looking/type exhaust.

So, basically it is going to run 3.5" Y to dual 3" over the axle. Does this seem reasonable?


Anybody try this? Tell me what your thoughts are on this.


BTW this will go on my 02 SS with 408ci motor with 1 7/8 Kooks headers, currently running 3" to a Magnaflow exhaust.

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Old 08-13-2009, 06:33 PM
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Nobody has any thoughts?
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still wont be as good as true duals, what i did was go to a custom shop and got my duals with bullet mufflers for 250. Shop around would be my advice.
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I brought this same setup in a thread a few months ago. I think it is something that is going to have be tried and see if any gains are made in performance. Also see if sound quality changes was my goal with mufflers right before the tips, along with merge after it goes over rear I hate the rasp of the Magnaflow Catback!
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Since you have a camaro, I'd just dump before the axle. Simple and easy.
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Originally Posted by Flaring Afro
Since you have a camaro, I'd just dump before the axle. Simple and easy.
My wife won't ride in the car with me if I dump before the axle...she said W8s SS was too loud while I was car sitting for him. Mine has more compression, bigger cam, bigger headers...will probably be louder.

I currently have the Magnaflow and a cutout. I will post a sound bite of it later when I am allowed to get in the car...(long story).
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why don't you just get a mufflex? a 4" mufflex is "suppose to outflow" a 2.5 TD setup. *crosses fingers* please don't let this start into an exhaust debate.
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you could run a catted TD setup. the cats only rob you of 4 hp
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I would run a 3in ypipe into a 3in 4out Flowmaster merge into a 4in Mufflex catback. Or whatever catback you might want to run and just use a 4in cutout. A Flowmaster merge is going to scavenge pretty well for a Ypipe setup.
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I have thought about buying a cheap loudmouth used, and taking out the I-pipe resonator and replacing it with a 4" cutout, and then putting 2 magnaflow mufflers in the rear, like in that Powerflow setup, but put turndowns on the muffler, as I'm just not a big fan on tips on a Camaro.

Should be plenty quiet, and sound great.

As far as the Y, 3 or 3.5 to a flowmaster Y merge, coming out to 4" and 4" cutout should give you all the loudness you will need with the cutout open. Is that the setup that you already had in mind?

I'm not sure of the 3.5 Y would hang to low or not. Most seem to stick with a 3" setup. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Black Sunshine/ 00SS
I have thought about buying a cheap loudmouth used, and taking out the I-pipe resonator and replacing it with a 4" cutout, and then putting 2 magnaflow mufflers in the rear, like in that Powerflow setup, but put turndowns on the muffler, as I'm just not a big fan on tips on a Camaro.

Should be plenty quiet, and sound great.

As far as the Y, 3 or 3.5 to a flowmaster Y merge, coming out to 4" and 4" cutout should give you all the loudness you will need with the cutout open. Is that the setup that you already had in mind?

I'm not sure of the 3.5 Y would hang to low or not. Most seem to stick with a 3" setup. Good luck.
You are right the 3" Y does hang down pretty low, especially on my lowered car. I will give your ideas some thought. I like the 2 small mufflers idea that is why I was looking at the PowerFlo. I am going to be pricing out a way to piece it together...

Thanks for the ideas guys keep 'em comin'
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The problem is that you need to:

1. Run the exhaust out the back
2. You will have to get as big of mufflers as you can fit in there to quiet things down.

My duals go all the way out the back, but since they use Magnaflow bullets, it is still pretty damn loud. My wife will definitely ride with me no problems, but my engine is still stock internals. That might change down the road when it's time to upgrade.
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i have duals out the back too and have enver had a complaint from passangers about it being too loud and im just using the TSP td's with no mufflers extended under the axle to Moroso Spiral flows.
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I meant she thought W8s SS was too loud with TSP TD with dumps before the axle. That is why it has to go out the back.
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Originally Posted by ExceSSive
My wife won't ride in the car with me if I dump before the axle...she said W8s SS was too loud while I was car sitting for him. Mine has more compression, bigger cam, bigger headers...will probably be louder.

I currently have the Magnaflow and a cutout. I will post a sound bite of it later when I am allowed to get in the car...(long story).
You're not allowed to get in the car?
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Originally Posted by SS4Luck
i have duals out the back too and have enver had a complaint from passangers about it being too loud and im just using the TSP td's with no mufflers extended under the axle to Moroso Spiral flows.
Got any pics of the underside of your car? I have some big suspension parts under my car...UMI TA, DS safety loop are heavy duty and take up a lot of room under the car. I am not sure there is enough room for duals. The car is lowered and exhaust shop said they can't get the pipes over the axle but I am not sure how I feel about under the axle.
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Originally Posted by streetassasin
You're not allowed to get in the car?
I had back surgery for a herniated disc and can't ride or drive for 2 weeks (cliff notes).

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fix the exhaust you want and buy a 400-600$ used car for the wifey rides LOL ... really.

or true 3" duals over the axle set up with quite restrictive mufflers (in the middle if cheaper) and dual electric cut-outs

oh and go ask other shops if the one you asked said no

many pictures in the external gen III true duals sticky over and under the axle

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I am in a very small town type area...I am going to have to find a shop in another town. The shop I asked does the best work in town.
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It can definitely be done...you just have to be very careful when running everything.







Granted, mine necks down to 2.5" diameter pipes right after the x-pipe.



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