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Old 08-23-2009, 04:10 PM
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Question installing starter - am i missing something??

Just put in an MSD-5096 starter on my LS1. The flexplate is stock. I noticed that there is quite a gap between the teeth of the flexplate and the starter. Am I missing something here? I know the starter comes with shims, but I thought that was for the long bolts that bolt the starter to the block...sorry guys I'm confused. What I do I need to do to get the teeth to mesh so the starter can turn the flexplate?



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Can you roll the bendix out with your finger and see how deep the starter gear meshes with the flex plate? The gear in the starter moves out into the flex plate when power hits it.
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If you install it with the teeth of the starter ingaged with the teeth on the flywheel you will have a big problem to say the least...when you turn the key the bendix moves the teeth on the starter and it engages those teeth with the teeth on the flywheel...did you ever hit the starter with the engine already running ... ouch ... now do you see what I am saying...hook it up and start the car.
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let me know how the starter works. might be replacin mine soon. i hope not but it might happen.
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Originally Posted by conan
The gear in the starter moves out into the flex plate when power hits it.
Conan once again to the rescue. I was hoping you would say that.

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If you install it with the teeth of the starter ingaged with the teeth on the flywheel you will have a big problem to say the least...when you turn the key the bendix moves the teeth on the starter and it engages those teeth with the teeth on the flywheel...did you ever hit the starter with the engine already running ... ouch ... now do you see what I am saying...hook it up and start the car.
Yes, totally makes sense now that you pointed it out.

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let me know how the starter works. might be replacin mine soon. i hope not but it might happen.
Will do Shov. I got the starter in, and torqued to spec (32 ft lbs according to MSD). Bolted up no problem and cleared my headers. So now I'm starting to wire the engine with a Painless Performance engine harness and I'm totally overwhelmed. So when I figure all that crap out I will let you know how the starter works!
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[QUOTE=demonpixel;12116080]Conan once again to the rescue. I was hoping you would say that. QUOTE]


You still haven't made any noise with that thing yet?
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Conan once again to the rescue. I was hoping you would say that.

You still haven't made any noise with that thing yet?
LOL I know dude. I suck! Just got back from vacation so that slowed me down some. And a seller on here sent me the wrong starter, that took forever, and my LS1 intake system wouldn't allow my hood to shut, so I'm going the LT1 cai route.

I've got most of the wiring harness stuff figured out but these things I need to research:

• Gear Indicator switch
• Reverse Lockout Solenoid (wtf is that?)
• Skip Shift Solenoid
• TRANS. (big grey plug with lots of pins)
• Brake Switch
• CKP (wtf is that?)

• Air Solenoid Relay
• Air Pump Relay
• Canister Vent
• Canister Purge

Off to drink beer and do more research!
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Originally Posted by demonpixel
LOL I know dude. I suck! Just got back from vacation so that slowed me down some. And a seller on here sent me the wrong starter, that took forever, and my LS1 intake system wouldn't allow my hood to shut, so I'm going the LT1 cai route.

I've got most of the wiring harness stuff figured out but these things I need to research:

• Gear Indicator switch
• Reverse Lockout Solenoid (wtf is that?)
• Skip Shift Solenoid
• TRANS. (big grey plug with lots of pins)
• Brake Switch
• CKP (wtf is that?)

• Air Solenoid Relay
• Air Pump Relay
• Canister Vent
• Canister Purge

Off to drink beer and do more research!
Cool, keep on it you'll get there
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Originally Posted by demonpixel
LOL I know dude. I suck! Just got back from vacation so that slowed me down some. And a seller on here sent me the wrong starter, that took forever, and my LS1 intake system wouldn't allow my hood to shut, so I'm going the LT1 cai route.

I've got most of the wiring harness stuff figured out but these things I need to research:

• Gear Indicator switch
• Reverse Lockout Solenoid (wtf is that?)
• Skip Shift Solenoid
• TRANS. (big grey plug with lots of pins)
• Brake Switch
• CKP (wtf is that?)

• Air Solenoid Relay
• Air Pump Relay
• Canister Vent
• Canister Purge

Off to drink beer and do more research!
CKP is the crankshaft position sensor. It's behind the starter.
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Originally Posted by LS1MCSS
CKP is the crankshaft position sensor. It's behind the starter.
Got it, thanks man! Did more research last night too, I have most of them down now I think.



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