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Old 11-22-2009, 01:01 PM
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Done for the year. Ran my bests yesterday of 11.40@119 MPH on a 1.54 60'. So I really wanted 10's on motor but just too much weight. Maybe a 4k plus stall would have dropped me a little more. So does one of the large lid/MAF setups add much power? I need about 60 RWHP or so.


If I had to do it over I think I would have kept my 11.79 bolt-on car and added a supercharger to get me there. Other option at this point is Nitrous. Think things would hold up well on a 150 shot?
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Congrats.if I was you would go the easy/cheap route n2o and take some weight off and and a 4k stall verter and your there.
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bigger cam?

but the stall would probably be best

other than juice
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I have thought about a bigger cam. I don't know how much I can go though since I won't be able to fly-cut the pistons at this point. I have thin Cometics and 67cc chambers for 11:1 compression plus 2.05 intake valves. Figuring what size cam I can stuff without PTV issues is harder now.
The converter would be nice but I drive the car alot. Trips to the beach, out and about, etc... I think I want to keep what I have there.
One other thought is full slicks instead of DR's next year but don't know how much that would gain.
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If you're not willing to take about 400 lbs out of that thing, then it's never going to run 10's without a very aggressive H/C package. A restall to 4200 would help to get that pig moving too. If you just want to run a 10 sec number, just throw on a 75-100 shot and you'll be there no sweat. I'd say the only thing you'd have to worry about breaking with that setup would be your tranny. The motor should be fine as long as the tune is solid. And if you're not spinning at all on the launch, then there's no reason to go to slicks over DR's other than the weight savings.
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how would a bigger stall help? seems like that is a pretty good 60ft already
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More RPM's on launch gets you to peek power quicker.
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A low 1.5x will go 10s if you can get the rest done at the other end. You'll need another 2-3mph. I've said it before, that setup is just too mild for 10s full weight. Either drop several hundred pounds, or go bigger on the cam and converter.

You could gamble with some truck coils , an electric waterpump, and either an 85mm intake setup or speed density tune. Then drop the front sway bar and pull the seats. It might work...
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Just spray it and be done, and be in the low 10's at 150 shot. and still drive like a everyday car.
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what about the short belt mod (no power steering), an EWP, a k-member, a 228/230 cam, port the FAST, skinnies in front if not already done, under-drive pulley??
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Something still isn't right you only gained 4 mph with patriot heads, fast 90 and a cam. Things are just not adding up at all. I would yank that cam and throw one in there with some real lift. Lift is not going to affect your piston to valve clearance like more duration will. It's a pretty mismatched combo really. Big valve heads, big combustion chambers, small cam, and a fast 90. Doesn't make much sense.
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Yea I'm looking at a cam. The FAST is port matched, I have UDP, no A/C belt, light wheels and all all but the driver's seat out.

I am for sure looking at cams with more lift just trying to figure the PTV thing out.
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Originally Posted by Nitroused383
Something still isn't right you only gained 4 mph with patriot heads, fast 90 and a cam. Things are just not adding up at all. I would yank that cam and throw one in there with some real lift. Lift is not going to affect your piston to valve clearance like more duration will. It's a pretty mismatched combo really. Big valve heads, big combustion chambers, small cam, and a fast 90. Doesn't make much sense.
You are right and upping the compression to boot. I really thought it would gain a good bit but the HP isn't off huge. RW I thought it would have picked up 75 not 40.
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why dont you take out the back seats, pass seat, spare tires/jack, and anything else that isnt bolted down. run your number and put it back in?
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Originally Posted by DarkJuggalo
why dont you take out the back seats, pass seat, spare tires/jack, and anything else that isnt bolted down. run your number and put it back in?
It was out. I only have the driver seat and everything else was out. A cam swap may help but don't think it will be huge or enough for 10's.
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get a ram air on there...25rwhp or 2.5mph...pm if you want one...

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...lts-tom-2.html

check post 23...also last posts show the new black finished product




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