Odds/Ends questions & advise
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Odds/Ends questions & advise
Heres the deal. Took my T/a into the shop last week to install a bunch of mods. I think both me and the shop are in over our heads, it appears that the guy doing the engine work, knows his engines, but has never worked on an ls1 car before, hints he took the heads off to do the cam lol. (Worked well for me because I had new ls6 heads put on with no extra labor costs). However, new missing parts keep coming up, two trips to ohio summit this week already. Today was for a Weiand intake gasket (local parts stores didnt carry). The two parts I am stuck on now, are the weiand intake manifold bolts (about an inch shorter than stock, summit didn't even carry them) & the fuel line fitting that goes on the right side. Could someone point me in the right direction to find these parts, ive tried many places with no results. Im so close to being done, & getting impatient but dont want to half-*** it if i can avoid it. The modifications being put on are as follows: Qtp lt headers, slp y pipe, weiand intake, bbk tb, tsp's torquer2 camshaft kit, ls6 heads, ls6 oil pump, ls2 timing chain, 410 gears/rebuild kit, hawk hp front brakes. I'm a little nervous to drive it home, knowing its going to be rough without a tune. What things do i need to watch out for, or break in slowly? I want to get the car up on a dyno asap, but some people are telling me dyno right after install, others say break it in before its beat on @ the dyno? Does anyone has close mods done to their car that can share some dyno & track numbers with me? Sorry this is so long, I'm getting a little parnoid.
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If it's not a new engine you don't have to break it in. BUT!!! Since your putting all of that on you don't need to beat on it at all until you get a tune and you need to do that asap. I would say try not to go above 2K or espeically 3K but I know that's going to be hard seeing you have 4:10 gears. Are you an Auto or Manual? Either way your going to get a stall if its an A4 and if it's an M6 your going to have to upgrade your clutch cause the stock one won't last long. YOu need to do alot of research. As far as numbers I'm going to say 420 to 440 rwhp that's just me guessing.
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The real reason i went to them, they did everything for $450, kind of hard to beat lol. I'm about to go pick it up in a few minutes. No, i did not upgrade the fuel injectors, which ones should i upgrade to & what type of $? Thats one thing i have not yet looked into. I'm most worried about my rear end staying together.
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tranny/convertor up grade?stock tranny/convertor will not handle that power increase for long .need bigger injectors ,you stepped up in power big,opened up a can of worms.rear end/drive shaft.it is worth it YES,keeps you out of marriage.
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Well, I just picked it up, it is ENTIRELY WAYYY TOO LOUD, would probably go to jail lol. The problem with keeping it at 2-3000 rpms is it has to be above 3000 to not stall out, it is out of tune BAD. I can tell shes going to run, probably better than i expected. Just by hearing it, i feel there are alot more upgrades i did not do that i will need to do for it not to break. A clutch was one that i was aware of. Drive shafts and such, I havent even went down that road yet. To be truthful, by the time I'm done with the dyno, I'm going to be pretty much flat broke. The machanic working out it, decided to drop oil & antifreeze all over the bottom of the engine, so I'm going to have to drive it around a bit before going to the dyno, no way in hell they will allow me to put it in the shop as it sits. Along with the other mods i listed above & in my signature, I have an slp cat back, could someone point me in a direction of a muffler that will tone it done alot. I still want it to sound good, but how it sounds now, is absoutely rediculous! lol. For those who asked, i do have an M6.
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Well, I just picked it up, it is ENTIRELY WAYYY TOO LOUD, would probably go to jail lol. The problem with keeping it at 2-3000 rpms is it has to be above 3000 to not stall out, it is out of tune BAD. I can tell shes going to run, probably better than i expected. Just by hearing it, i feel there are alot more upgrades i did not do that i will need to do for it not to break. A clutch was one that i was aware of. Drive shafts and such, I havent even went down that road yet. To be truthful, by the time I'm done with the dyno, I'm going to be pretty much flat broke. The machanic working out it, decided to drop oil & antifreeze all over the bottom of the engine, so I'm going to have to drive it around a bit before going to the dyno, no way in hell they will allow me to put it in the shop as it sits. Along with the other mods i listed above & in my signature, I have an slp cat back, could someone point me in a direction of a muffler that will tone it done alot. I still want it to sound good, but how it sounds now, is absoutely rediculous! lol. For those who asked, i do have an M6.
i'm probably forgetting something but it's 3:30 am and i'm going to bed. ill look at this again tomorrow.
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Also could someone recommend fuel injectors I will be needing (hoping something thats not to costly) As for the clutch, Im hoping to find a used in good condition ls7 clutch. Thank you in advanced for all the advise. (In wayy over my head right now) lol.
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oh right fuel injectors...hmm i actually have the same question for my 2nd cam swap. my current cam doesn't need them but my new cam will be bigger than yours. my solution was going to be to call my tuner on monday and see what he says. and as far as price goes...good luck.
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well I guess i got what i paid for as the shops concern. Hooked the car up to a scan tool today to find 12 codes showing, they decided to not put the 02 sensors on, re-located things to incorrect places, map & throttle position sensor are "unresponcive" So I have to take the intake off and see if theyre even plugged in, my wash fluid container was just laying in there. I cant even remember what else right now, I sure hope they didnt do as shitting of a job on the engine mods as the easy ****. They even put the rotational tires on wrong, how in the hell do u mess that up? Anyways, my buddy and i are going to undo all of their mistakes tonight & tomarrow. Then i can get back to clutch and injectors as a priorty. So 30lb injectors will work fine? They dont seem as expensive as the rest.
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well I guess i got what i paid for as the shops concern. Hooked the car up to a scan tool today to find 12 codes showing, they decided to not put the 02 sensors on, re-located things to incorrect places, map & throttle position sensor are "unresponcive" So I have to take the intake off and see if theyre even plugged in, my wash fluid container was just laying in there. I cant even remember what else right now, I sure hope they didnt do as shitting of a job on the engine mods as the easy ****. They even put the rotational tires on wrong, how in the hell do u mess that up? Anyways, my buddy and i are going to undo all of their mistakes tonight & tomarrow. Then i can get back to clutch and injectors as a priorty. So 30lb injectors will work fine? They dont seem as expensive as the rest.
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As of eariler today, there was a loud poping noise coming from the engine, and a jerking back and fourth motion while driving down the road. Im assuming its from the o2 sensors not being plugged in, along with the valve cover bolt not in the front. Fixing what I KNOW OF & going from there. It is a scary thought, to think the reason im building is to race it. I'm hoping everything turns out, I already dropped wayy more money than intended, I'm concentrating on the clutch first and then injectors, will it be ok to run stock injectors for a few weeks?
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You need to have the car checked by GOOD mechanics. The error of removing heads for a cam change should have been a first clue. Sorry for your misfortune, but compounding it without good advice is another error. We can't properly diagnose your car without being there.
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Last question, I dont remember which spark plugs i got in there right now, but i know theyre not that great. Any recommendations? The o2 sensors are all plugged in correctly, valve cover bolt, all the hoses are ran properly. I'm going to clear the codes tomarrow & double check make sure we didnt miss anything, still hoping to be on the dyno for Monday or Tuesday.