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Old 03-23-2011, 11:15 PM
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Just curious if anyone knows if these mods would be reliable on a stock 2000 ls1 SS with a center force clutch and 3.73 rearend. Looking to get close to 450hp to the rear without boost. I don't drag race. Car just turned 41k miles.

GMPP CNC LS6 head
FAST LSX intake, 90mm
FAST 90mm throttle body
Comp conical springs
Comp pushrods, 5/16"
Crane Zcam hyd. roller
Kooks 1 3/4 headers
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with a correct tune and healthy motor you should be ok.
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You are not going to get 450 to the rear wheels with those mods.....
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Yep look for better heads and better cam and better springs.

Somthing like
Prc. 5.3 heads, ms3 cam, Underdrive pulley, Intake is good and throttle body is good, 36 # injectors. With a good tune u should be right around 430-450 to the wheels.
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Originally Posted by OUTLAWZ RACING
Yep look for better heads and better cam and better springs.

Somthing like
Prc. 5.3 heads, ms3 cam, Underdrive pulley, Intake is good and throttle body is good, 36 # injectors. With a good tune u should be right around 430-450 to the wheels.
Thank you for the suggestions. Any help is appreciated. I only want to do this once. I'm wanting to do a before and after dyno. So if anyone is interested, subscribe. I'll be adding the results to this thread.
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If you want to do it right the first time and get the best power for the money, go with a set of Advanced Induction LS6 heads and one of their custom grind cams. They use the PSI valve springs, so your covered there. An EPS cam is another route you can go. I picked up 52rwh with a small 226/230 cam.
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I have heard nothing but good things from the advanced inductions h/c combo. I know one guy who made 470rwhp on that setup
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I have heard nothing but good things from the advanced inductions h/c combo. I know one guy who made 470rwhp on that setup
Yup, DJFURY put down those numbers. His set up is solid and fast. AI FTW!
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There are hundreds of great combos that are both reliable and can consistently produce 430 - 450+ rwhp. Eclipsing the 450 rwhp mark will typically require going a little larger on the cam and will likely require the higher end parts. There are always exceptions, however I'm just stating what you should reasonably expect.

Personally, my combo below netted me 440 rwhp / 408 rwtq and is reliable as a daily driver. It's one of many different combos that would likely work well for you.

In hindsight, if I had it to do over, I would've likely gone with a Vengeance Racing cam (VRX4 or VRX5) and would've considered springing a little more cash for TFS "as cast" heads however I am very pleased with my current setup. The cash I saved by going the "budget" route went into a N2O kit so it was essentially trading an additional 10 - 20 CONSTANT rwhp for a 150 shot of N2O when I needed it.
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Originally Posted by Midnight02
There are hundreds of great combos that are both reliable and can consistently produce 430 - 450+ rwhp. Eclipsing the 450 rwhp mark will typically require going a little larger on the cam and will likely require the higher end parts. There are always exceptions, however I'm just stating what you should reasonably expect.

Personally, my combo below netted me 440 rwhp / 408 rwtq and is reliable as a daily driver. It's one of many different combos that would likely work well for you.

In hindsight, if I had it to do over, I would've likely gone with a Vengeance Racing cam (VRX4 or VRX5) and would've considered springing a little more cash for TFS "as cast" heads however I am very pleased with my current setup. The cash I saved by going the "budget" route went into a N2O kit so it was essentially trading an additional 10 - 20 CONSTANT rwhp for a 150 shot of N2O when I needed it.
Not trying to thread jack, but will the vrx4 be capable of 450 with the right supporting mods?
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With the right supporting mods.. a simple 228r or the like will clear 450rwhp.
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Yeah right now my mods are ls6 mani, slp bellow/lid with k&n, kooks LTs 3in, exhaust im looking into a good cam. I wanna go with fast mani and some different heads but that will be in the future.
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With the right supporting mods.. a simple 228r or the like will clear 450rwhp.
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Heads will be your deciding factor, period.

I would look into talking to pat g or someone in the know and get a custom grind. Few more bucks but worth it in the end.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Heads will be your deciding factor, period.

I would look into talking to pat g or someone in the know and get a custom grind. Few more bucks but worth it in the end.
I'll look into that thanks man..
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Originally Posted by 209SlowLS1
Not trying to thread jack, but will the vrx4 be capable of 450 with the right supporting mods?
It should but its all in the tune! A vrx3 would do 430+ and be a tq monster, the cnc'd 5.3 heads will do good to on with that cam and have them milled .010 or .020 for the compression bump! Compression is your friend! All the cars in the cam only low 10's and 9s are 14.1+! 11.5-11.8 max for 93 octane. Are you a4 or m6? 3600 if you plan to spray or 4000 n/a but the 3600 is a good all around stall.
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Originally Posted by Cold06
It should but its all in the tune! A vrx3 would do 430+ and be a tq monster, the cnc'd 5.3 heads will do good to on with that cam and have them milled .010 or .020 for the compression bump! Compression is your friend! All the cars in the cam only low 10's and 9s are 14.1+! 11.5-11.8 max for 93 octane. Are you a4 or m6? 3600 if you plan to spray or 4000 n/a but the 3600 is a good all around stall.
My cars tuned by synergy right now I believe it put down 358hp and 368tq So ill probobly return to them. Id have to live with the stock heads for a little bit and my car is a M6..



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