I hope TSP sees this
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I hope TSP sees this
Alright so TSP has a great TD setup out there, but for many people, including myself, dumped duals are just too loud. I love the sounds but for my daily driver its too much.
I'm hoping many people will join me on this
But basically I want people to agree or disagree that TSP should sell an OVER THE AXEL KIT for the f-bodies. I mean I have no clue why they haven't yet, there's not one single company that actually makes a kit for TD's to run OTA and it blows my mind.
I think people would be all over these kits like a hobo on a ham sandwich
let me know your inputs and I hope TSP starts this soon because F*ck having a shop fab one up for hundreds of $$
Okey I guess i should have explained better, I understand Kooks has a TD setup but what I mean I think TSP should sell separately an over the axle extension for dumped duals....I don't see any sense in spending $1400 on a TD setup from kooks....yes its the best setup I've heard but not for poor people like myself lol
I'm hoping many people will join me on this
But basically I want people to agree or disagree that TSP should sell an OVER THE AXEL KIT for the f-bodies. I mean I have no clue why they haven't yet, there's not one single company that actually makes a kit for TD's to run OTA and it blows my mind.
I think people would be all over these kits like a hobo on a ham sandwich
let me know your inputs and I hope TSP starts this soon because F*ck having a shop fab one up for hundreds of $$
Okey I guess i should have explained better, I understand Kooks has a TD setup but what I mean I think TSP should sell separately an over the axle extension for dumped duals....I don't see any sense in spending $1400 on a TD setup from kooks....yes its the best setup I've heard but not for poor people like myself lol
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I have wondered the same thing. If they had offered that for 100-200 more dollars, I would have definitely thrown my money at them. Don't get me wrong... I love my dumped duals from TSP, but i can't pass inspection because of it. Still working on finding a friendly shop in the Austin area.
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Im behind you completely on this one. Kinda one of those obvious things that never get said. The single pipes sound good, but there isnt anything like true duals.
Dumps and cutouts = overrated, lets see a real exhaust system
Dumps and cutouts = overrated, lets see a real exhaust system
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If you dont want to drop the cash on kooks then why complain? Gotta pay to play. Buy some bends and fab one up yourself if you are that worried about it.
Also i think for every 1 person that complains about the loudness of the dumped duals, there are 3-5 people who love it.
Also i think for every 1 person that complains about the loudness of the dumped duals, there are 3-5 people who love it.
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TSP could make this but it would be way more than 100-200 over their dual kit. It would probably be 800-1000 total. Lots of time and engineering go into a kit like the kooks hence the price, and the materials used. A good exhaust shop would probably charge you a grand. If you want cheap over the axle true duals do it yourself or take it to a hack.
If Tsp made this with mandrel bends and keep the price around 600 Im sure they would sell a lot
If Tsp made this with mandrel bends and keep the price around 600 Im sure they would sell a lot
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As already stated, Kooks makes a nice kit, and Bassani has one as well. For TSP to do this, they'd have to completely re-engineer everything, because as it sits, they'd have to do one pipe over each axle due to their current routing. That would have to be done very carefully since there are fuel and brake lines that run very close to that area on the driver's side, not to mention the potential clearance issues with the upper panhard brace and panhard rod. Toss in the variances that exist from car to car, and they could have a potential nightmare.
If they ran both pipes over the passenger side, it would require an upper panhard brace relocation kit ($$), and they would have to totally reconfigure their x-pipe (or at least have some weird bends) to get the pipes pointing in that direction. That's a lot of R&D for a market that is extremely limited. The average f-body owner doesn't want to spend a whole lot of money for something like this, and you've already lumped yourself in that category by saying you aren't willing to pay the Kooks price, which isn't bad considering what you get.
This isn't a simple task...if it was, they'd have already done it. They stand to make 0 profit doing something like this, so why should they?
If they ran both pipes over the passenger side, it would require an upper panhard brace relocation kit ($$), and they would have to totally reconfigure their x-pipe (or at least have some weird bends) to get the pipes pointing in that direction. That's a lot of R&D for a market that is extremely limited. The average f-body owner doesn't want to spend a whole lot of money for something like this, and you've already lumped yourself in that category by saying you aren't willing to pay the Kooks price, which isn't bad considering what you get.
This isn't a simple task...if it was, they'd have already done it. They stand to make 0 profit doing something like this, so why should they?
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to run it over the axle really isnt that bad. You need the offset upper panhard rod, and a good exhaust guy to build it. the material alone costs about 500$ to do it with all mandrel bends. that is with mufflers. took on of my friends about 7 hours to do it on his car.
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Do you not search threads, there was just a 5page talk about this, duals are not made to be quiet, there a max effort setup for a great price, you could always run them to the back but guess what its still going to be loud,another reason they will not do this because people expect it to be a direct fit, well no car is the same and some work would need to be done,which some people would just complain about, you can run extensions for under a 150, the tsp duals is a great setup for the money
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If you dont want to drop the cash on kooks then why complain? Gotta pay to play. Buy some bends and fab one up yourself if you are that worried about it.
Also i think for every 1 person that complains about the loudness of the dumped duals, there are 3-5 people who love it.
Also i think for every 1 person that complains about the loudness of the dumped duals, there are 3-5 people who love it.
I'm not complaining by any means, just stating that i think TSP would make alot of money if they sold extensions from dumps to over the axle. and as i stated DO love the sound of dumped duals
but in my area I have gotten way to many tickets for my exhaust in the past I dont feel like dealing with that again and its my DD
I am doing the exhaust myself and it would have been nice to be able to buy an over the axle kit to make this easier for myself in my garage lol
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Do you not search threads, there was just a 5page talk about this, duals are not made to be quiet, there a max effort setup for a great price, you could always run them to the back but guess what its still going to be loud,another reason they will not do this because people expect it to be a direct fit, well no car is the same and some work would need to be done,which some people would just complain about, you can run extensions for under a 150, the tsp duals is a great setup for the money
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I'm not complaining by any means, just stating that i think TSP would make alot of money if they sold extensions from dumps to over the axle. and as i stated DO love the sound of dumped duals
but in my area I have gotten way to many tickets for my exhaust in the past I dont feel like dealing with that again and its my DD
I am doing the exhaust myself and it would have been nice to be able to buy an over the axle kit to make this easier for myself in my garage lol
but in my area I have gotten way to many tickets for my exhaust in the past I dont feel like dealing with that again and its my DD
I am doing the exhaust myself and it would have been nice to be able to buy an over the axle kit to make this easier for myself in my garage lol
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