High end oil filters examined - Page 4 - LS1TECH



Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

High end oil filters examined

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-20-2015, 12:00 PM   #61
Registered User
 
tbot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 13
Default

I would have to completely agree with you Paul, however there are a couple things I noticed right away about the shitty filter that don't look right to me.

First off, the good filter has the small black "printer testing marks" above and to the sides of the filter number.

Secondly, the good filter actually says "lube filter" under the filter number in the red mark.

Thirdly, the good filter is smooth all the way from top to bottom and the shittt one has the pleats toward the very bottom.

Then there's the whole inside differences. Dealing with these on a daily basis and getting shipments every week directly from Cummins, to me the filter on the right looks like a knock off.

I'm going to do some more digging today and make some phone calls to see what I come up with. Hopefully I can get in touch with our rep, but I have a few places I can call.
tbot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2015, 12:39 PM   #62
That's MISTER MODERATOR
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Paul Bell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 7,304
Default

I've been sourcing them from Wheeling Truck Supply, whom I totally trust. They tell me this filter was fresh stock direct from Fleetguard.
Paul Bell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2015, 11:00 AM   #63
TECH Resident
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 787
Default

Interesting read. I thought I was doing my motor a favor by purchasing the Mobil 1 filters, but I guess I'll have to upgrade.

I'm curious, though: are there any reputable placed to buy these online? I mean, Paul, you're finding knock offs at companies you actually trust... But you're familiar with these filters and know how to spot a fake..
wayland1985 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2015, 12:06 PM   #64
That's MISTER MODERATOR
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Paul Bell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 7,304
Default

The Mobil1 filter is a very good filter and I use it for oil changes I do on "regular" cars. Keep using it without worries.
Paul Bell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2015, 10:20 PM   #65
11 Second Club
 
CoolAid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 322
Default

A Filtermag should do a good job turning a standard filter into a high end one.

I have this one:

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ra300

Looks like they have new models or model names now though.
CoolAid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2015, 07:28 AM   #66
That's MISTER MODERATOR
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Paul Bell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 7,304
Default

The filter mag sticks to the outside of the filter can-which is metal. This greatly reduces the magnetic strength that's actually available inside the can.

Despite that, yes, they do attract some metal partials that might be in the oil.

However, if your oil has as much magnetic stuff to be attracted by the magnet as shown in their advertising, your engine has bigger problems than needing a filter mag.

A good quality oil filter and magnetic oil drain plug should be all you need. The drain plug will show stuff on it.

Having said this, it doesn't hurt anything to use it. If you have and wanna spend sixty bucks, go ahead.
Paul Bell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2015, 09:23 AM   #67
11 Second Club
 
CoolAid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 322
Default

FWIW, I used to find the normal small amount of metal dust on my mag plug before the Filtermag but the plug comes out clean without a trace after affixing the Filtermag.

It's not just a lame elementary school magnet. It usually takes a flat blade screwdriver to pry it off.
CoolAid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2015, 08:28 AM   #68
Teching In
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Toronto
Posts: 9
Default

What are your thought on reusable oil filter. I had one for 95 TA, the only drawback is the cost. I ordered a new one for the firehawk, I will show pictures when I get it.
Firehawk C054 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2015, 02:59 PM   #69
TECH Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 1,808
Default

Everyone reading this and choosing to make a switch, please post Brand A filter idle oil pressure, and Brand B filter idle oil pressure. If you can.

Pressure drop data and actual filter media micron ratings would both be nice to see.
DavidBoren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2015, 05:08 PM   #70
That's MISTER MODERATOR
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Paul Bell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 7,304
Default

Keeping in mind that oil is usually changed at the same time as the filter, I'd bet that all fresh oil filters would result in the same PSI regardless of filter media being used.
Paul Bell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2015, 08:55 PM   #71
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (11)
 
S10xGN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Port Neches, TX
Posts: 3,665
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Firehawk C054 View Post
What are your thought on reusable oil filter. I had one for 95 TA, the only drawback is the cost. I ordered a new one for the firehawk, I will show pictures when I get it.
What did you get? I inquired awhile back about a "System One" filter and got lots of negativity...
S10xGN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2015, 09:41 PM   #72
Teching In
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Toronto
Posts: 9
Default

This filter is from K & P enginering. I had no problems with this filter in the past. It is costly.
Firehawk C054 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2015, 08:53 PM   #73
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (11)
 
S10xGN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Port Neches, TX
Posts: 3,665
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Firehawk C054 View Post
This filter is from K & P enginering. I had no problems with this filter in the past. It is costly.
Hmmm, cheaper than the System One and better made to boot!
S10xGN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2015, 06:04 AM   #74
TECH Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,842
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by leadfoot4 View Post



Was that really necessary?


Yes. YES it was.
Jimbo1367 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2015, 11:00 AM   #75
TECH Resident
iTrader: (5)
 
miami993c297's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: West Palm Beach fl usa
Posts: 915
Default

Info on this KN Pro-Series 1007:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=ps-1007


Christian
miami993c297 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2015, 11:28 AM   #76
That's MISTER MODERATOR
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Paul Bell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 7,304
Default

Many manufacturers offer "high flow racing" filters. Moroso, Wix and Fram all offer it. These filters usually have a high micron rating such as 60 microns, so they filter less dirt.

The Wix filter specifically says on it for race use only. Race cars typically see oil & filter changes after a few races and don't need to filter dirty high milage oil.

High flow race filters should not be used on street or DD vehicles.
Paul Bell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2015, 06:44 PM   #77
That's MISTER MODERATOR
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Paul Bell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 7,304
Default

Paul Bell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2015, 08:03 PM   #78
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (6)
 
MonmouthCtyLS7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Browns Mills NJ/ Rotondo West FL
Posts: 3,799
Default

I avoid Fram at all costs, usually stick to M1 or K&N.
MonmouthCtyLS7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2015, 09:11 PM   #79
That's MISTER MODERATOR
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Paul Bell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 7,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyLS7 View Post
I avoid Fram at all costs, usually stick to M1 or K&N.
Smart move!
Paul Bell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2015, 10:53 PM   #80
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (35)
 
99Bluz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: C. V., Kalifornia
Posts: 9,736
Default

FYI, the K & P Engineering S16(complete assembly) fits the 98-2002 F-body, it filters down to 35 microns, an is easy to clean. I've had one (S16) on my Camaro for around 7 yrs and have never had any issues with it, other than the fact it doesn't come with any extra O-rings which you will eventually need. You can get the seals for a good price at McMaster-Carr. The O-rings are pt#90025K391 and come in a bag of 25 for $11.19. All it's component are available individually.

Retail price is $159.
Here's a list of S16 components part numbers:
Housing, C3
Quad Ring, QR2
Filter Element, FE16
Filter Element Retaining Spring, FERS1
Cup Wrench, CW1

Last edited by 99Bluz28; 10-24-2015 at 11:04 PM.
99Bluz28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Anyone in space coast able to cut my fender supports? Mike Morris Florida Members 0 03-08-2017 07:18 PM
'02 f body connector...recognize this?? GonHuntin Conversions & Hybrids 5 02-16-2017 11:47 AM
Since German Castrol is gone.... (IT'S NOT!!) Paul Bell Generation III External Engine 209 04-15-2016 11:53 AM
Special crimper? axekick PCM Diagnostics & Tuning 5 03-24-2016 07:03 PM
Brand new GT45 turbo w/vband and flange cullen Parts Classifieds 5 02-07-2016 06:45 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:29 AM.