98camaropower

Hi guys I need advice Symbol performance is claiming if I put theyer 102mm tb an 102mm intake manifold on my stock ls1 (with long tubes) I will see a hp gain from 30 to 50 horse what's your input my car is a 98 Camaro ss ls1 it's A4 an 3.73 gears an input would help because I don't have alot of knowledge with this stuff

MonmouthCtyLS7

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Long tubes, Fast 102/102 30-50 gain is normal. They're not telling you anything astronomical.

alowerlevel

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Might wanna do some more research on that intake and company before you go wasting your money, here ya go https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...-manifold.html

redtan

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You will see 30-40 hp increase over stock, but that's including the long tubes. If they claim you will gain 30-50 ON TOP of the gains you get from the long tubes then they are BSing you.

Cstone812

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Stay away. Stay far far away from that place. Buy some quality parts. Nick Williams tb and a fast 102.

big hammer

Junk.

Go with a ported fast or MSD with 1-7/8 headers

98camaropower

Okay awesome info guys I did call Symbol Performance they said that their intake is different than the eBay ones the eBay are knock offs but it seems too sketchy to me especially to be paying $750 for intake and throttle body and them not help me at all I read a few good suggestions does anyone else have any other ideas on a good intake and throttle body for me keep in mind down the road I would like to do head and cam so I would like to be set up for that

98camaropower

Did anyone see that hotrod.com dyno tested Symbol performance intake I will try to find the link

98camaropower

http://www.hotrod.com/features/1507-...ifolds-tested/

Mongoose350

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There are two different companies that go by "SLP". One is a huge con and sells cheap knock offs of the real companies intake. The quality is terrible, the intake will flex under throttle, and I've even see people who have lost HP even compared to their stock intake. The injector bungs don't line up properly. The intake runners are poorly done. I suggest staying away unless you're just curious.

The REAL intake is a very quality piece and goes for upwards of $2k.

Rise of the Phoenix

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There are multiple threads on here regarding Symbol Performance, and none of what's in there is good. Stay away.

98camaropower

Ok awesome if I told you guys I'm just gonna keep an eye out for a used fast here on the site how would that sound or are there any other affordable intake an tb combos out theyer

MonmouthCtyLS7

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You could get a LS6 for $350 that should give you 5 or 10 horsepower but you would see an additional 15-20 with a ported Fast/TB over that.

madmike9396

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from a comparison I seen the TBSS manilfold is better than the ls6

98camaropower

Ok hope this isn't a dumb question but do the fast intakes an tb come ported?

Darth_V8r

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They do if you request and pay for it. Tony Mamo and a few others do fast 102 porting. Honestly don't need to port a 102 throttle. Almost double the airflow over stock.

98camaropower

Well it looks like I'll be looking for a 102 fast an intake

98camaropower

I assume I'll need fuel rails anything else for this swap.. the reason I'd like to just go straight to the fast instead of a ls6 is because I'm going to do head an cam swap this way I'll be set up in the long run is that a good idea or no??

MonmouthCtyLS7

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If your on stock cubes id stay w/ the 92mm Fast, plus its a direct swap. If your looking for the most out of your setup absolutely go Fast over the LS6.

98camaropower

Or would switching to a ls6 intake an porting my stock intake be sufficient even if I did heads an cam later