will LT's cause me to lose significant low end torgue??
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will LT's cause me to lose significant low end torgue??
some time this summer i really want to do LT's, preferably kooks or qtp's, but ive read in a few places that i would lose low end torque, is this true?
i really dont want to go internal now, and probably never will but i want some more power, and more power off the line is always good...i dont want to drop $800+ on headers then feel like i lost power down low
any advice greatly appreciated...
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i really dont want to go internal now, and probably never will but i want some more power, and more power off the line is always good...i dont want to drop $800+ on headers then feel like i lost power down low
any advice greatly appreciated...
THANKS
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Originally Posted by 02blackws679ta
some time this summer i really want to do LT's, preferably kooks or qtp's, but ive read in a few places that i would lose low end torque, is this true?
i really dont want to go internal now, and probably never will but i want some more power, and more power off the line is always good...i dont want to drop $800+ on headers then feel like i lost power down low
any advice greatly appreciated...
THANKS
i really dont want to go internal now, and probably never will but i want some more power, and more power off the line is always good...i dont want to drop $800+ on headers then feel like i lost power down low
any advice greatly appreciated...
THANKS
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Some headers are different than other. I had SLPs and just swapped them out for Kooks, both with cats. The SLPs definitely had more low end power than the Kooks, BUT I can say that the Kooks make more up top over the SLPs. Weird. There are tradeoffs with everything man. As for your question, from manifolds to LTs, you'll have more power everywhere from the swap.
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Originally Posted by X-JeSSter
It's a function of backpressure. If you go too big on your primaries, you lose backpressure which a stock LS1 likes a little bit of.
you want velocity which comes from having a pipe JUST large enough to give the REQUIRED flow and nothing more but this is hard to hit so you just try to be in the ballpark (not on the pitchers mound)...
Most LT headers will actually gain low end if they are not too large. 1 3/4" works well for most cars (won't be too big)...depending on how radical you will go on things you could go up to stepped.
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this old again .......backpressure is NEVER good.....
you want velocity which comes from having a pipe JUST large enough to give the REQUIRED flow and nothing more but this is hard to hit so you just try to be in the ballpark (not on the pitchers mound)...
Most LT headers will actually gain low end if they are not too large. 1 3/4" works well for most cars (won't be too big)...depending on how radical you will go on things you could go up to stepped.
you want velocity which comes from having a pipe JUST large enough to give the REQUIRED flow and nothing more but this is hard to hit so you just try to be in the ballpark (not on the pitchers mound)...
Most LT headers will actually gain low end if they are not too large. 1 3/4" works well for most cars (won't be too big)...depending on how radical you will go on things you could go up to stepped.
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One thing that hasn't really been touched upon here is the fact that (everything else being equal) its actually the short tube headers that emphasize top end gains. Long tubes or midlengths tend to promote low-midrange power.
I remember an old dyno chart that Tony posted a long time ago comparing his Macs to FLP's. The top end was slightly higher, but there were huge gains (~20rwhp) in the midrange.
I remember an old dyno chart that Tony posted a long time ago comparing his Macs to FLP's. The top end was slightly higher, but there were huge gains (~20rwhp) in the midrange.
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Originally Posted by Fulton 1
One thing that hasn't really been touched upon here is the fact that (everything else being equal) its actually the short tube headers that emphasize top end gains. Long tubes or midlengths tend to promote low-midrange power.
I remember an old dyno chart that Tony posted a long time ago comparing his Macs to FLP's. The top end was slightly higher, but there were huge gains (~20rwhp) in the midrange.
I remember an old dyno chart that Tony posted a long time ago comparing his Macs to FLP's. The top end was slightly higher, but there were huge gains (~20rwhp) in the midrange.
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Originally Posted by Fulton 1
One thing that hasn't really been touched upon here is the fact that (everything else being equal) its actually the short tube headers that emphasize top end gains. Long tubes or midlengths tend to promote low-midrange power.
I remember an old dyno chart that Tony posted a long time ago comparing his Macs to FLP's. The top end was slightly higher, but there were huge gains (~20rwhp) in the midrange.
I remember an old dyno chart that Tony posted a long time ago comparing his Macs to FLP's. The top end was slightly higher, but there were huge gains (~20rwhp) in the midrange.
........thus the reason why top fuel guys have those 6" long pipes the stick up in the air
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Originally Posted by davered00ss
I gained Hp in all RPM ranges when I did my Kooks Stainless steel headers with Magnaflow cats.
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Kooks 1 3/4 would be a perfect set up for you. I would be very suprised if you didn't see HP gains across the board. I wouldn't look into 1 7/8 or bigger unless you do plan to make internal changes. If you are still looking for a set let me know & I have them in stock & will get you a good price.