Motor mount bolt won't line up
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Motor mount bolt won't line up
Hey guys I spent 8 hours today trying to line the 18 mm motor bolt up and I could only line one side up. If the driver side 18mm bolt goes then passenger side won't go in. Tried it the other passenger side in first and then driver side didn't work. Then I did the drivers side first and used a pancake jack to move the motor to the right and I could only see half the hole and the motor just wouldn't budge to the right anymore. Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong? I also tried a pry bar and the pry bar would flex, but the motor would not budge!
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Might try loosening up the the bolts that mount it to the block. Can probably get some wiggle room doing that. I had to mess around with mine for a bit when I dropped the motor in. I don't remember exactly what I did to get it to work, but I know I had to loosen some bolts.
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I'll try loosening the clam shell bolts tomorrow. I jacked the motor every which way I could and I was always just half a bolt off! What about removing the bolt on the pedestal and then stick the 18 mm bolt through the pedestal into the poly mount and then bolting the pedestal back on the k member? I'm assuming the pedestals are on bolts as I think I saw bolt on them, but I'll check tomorrow
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I'll try loosening the clam shell bolts tomorrow. I jacked the motor every which way I could and I was always just half a bolt off! What about removing the bolt on the pedestal and then stick the 18 mm bolt through the pedestal into the poly mount and then bolting the pedestal back on the k member? I'm assuming the pedestals are on bolts as I think I saw bolt on them, but I'll check tomorrow
They are poly mounts, very rigid and tight for a reason.
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Just did my motor mounts the last few weekends, what a nightmare. I did the drivers side first, then the passenger side. Just getting the clamshells to bolt to the block were a nightmare, worst part of the job. To get the 18mm bolt through, i had a jack on the oil pan and the scissors jack on the block and used them at the same time. Never perfectly lined up, but got it close enough to use a ratcheting wrench to get it in somewhat then pounded it with a hammer. Nothing pretty about it, but got it in without chewing up the threads. Good luck, i would never do this job again hahaha
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Burken01 I sharpened the bolt and I was able to hammer it in! Your a life saver man haha. The back side didn't line up so I used a screwdriver to line it while I had someone hammer it in and it was done. Down side was I might over tighten the bolt seemed like the bolt was spinning, but the threads weren't moving I didn't move it to much just a tad bit didn't want to snap it and it's tight as hell. Didn't know what 70ft lbs was so I guessed lol
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The engine mount shown in your picture is installed upside-down on the block...the other side may be as well. The step in the metal housing goes towards the bottom of the block and the flat end that you can see in your photo goes up.
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I had the same issue... I fought and fought for hours. Did some research and lots of curse words and found out I needed to flip my clamshells around. Once I did the bolts went through like butter.
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Yes, the orientation of the insert is correct, the cage however is upside-down. There is a kick-up to the cage geometry on one end and it goes towards the bottom side of the motor. The insert would have to be flipped inside the cage to make everything as it should be.
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Also noticed - when I did this swap, I put the jack so that it was pressing directly ON THE MOUNT, not on the block. Maybe that would have helped, maybe not...
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Just did my motor mounts the last few weekends, what a nightmare. I did the drivers side first, then the passenger side. Just getting the clamshells to bolt to the block were a nightmare, worst part of the job. To get the 18mm bolt through, i had a jack on the oil pan and the scissors jack on the block and used them at the same time. Never perfectly lined up, but got it close enough to use a ratcheting wrench to get it in somewhat then pounded it with a hammer. Nothing pretty about it, but got it in without chewing up the threads. Good luck, i would never do this job again hahaha
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Start by ensuring the cages of your mounts are oriented correctly on your motor and that the inserts are oriented correctly in the cages. As stated earlier, the end of the cages that have the steps in them go towards the bottom of the motor.
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It seemed for me, the higher i jacked the motor the easier it was to move the clamshell in the pedestal, which allowed me to move it around more and get a bolt or two started. I had my rack and pinion out and speed engineering long tube headers installed, dont know if that gave me more or less room. I will say, the passenger side seemed to have more room, drivers side took me an hour to just get the clamshell out of the car with how tight it was with the headers
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Originally Posted by brewcrew011
It seemed for me, the higher i jacked the motor the easier it was to move the clamshell in the pedestal, which allowed me to move it around more and get a bolt or two started. I had my rack and pinion out and speed engineering long tube headers installed, dont know if that gave me more or less room. I will say, the passenger side seemed to have more room, drivers side took me an hour to just get the clamshell out of the car with how tight it was with the headers
If you really want some room do a tubular K. I've said it before, its the first thing I'll do on any future build. I can literally do my mounts through the wheel wells sitting comfortably. Even makes the header swap easier. And any future oil pan removals.
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To update from my post I am making progress on my mounts and got the drivers side installed, had to find the sweet spot on the jack to get the clamshells to line up to the block.