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04-11-2005, 08:40 AM
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First Toy I just got my 00 SS last week, and I've got the okay from the better half to get after the performance parts.
I have around 500 - 600 to spend on parts, but I was going to ask some advice from ya'll. This car is practically stock, it has a SLP Lid and Exhaust (One that came from the factory) and a Hurst Shifter. I would like to get another deeper exhaust on the car, and I'm leaning toward duals. So I had a few questions.
1. With High Flow Cats on it, is it going to be an absolute pain to have this thing inspected if I go with true duals?
2. I have a "inside guy" who can get me some Hooker LTs for $534, should I go with them first?
3. Will duals hook up to the factory headers okay?
4. What is the better size to go with on a exhaust 3" or 2.5"? I've heard of problems with back preasure on the 3".
5. Is there a something else you could suggest before all of this?
My plans for the car are to have a very fast weekend driver that will eventually have a reworked engine an a large shot of nitrous on it, but no trailer queen. Any suggestions ya'll could give would be great.
I have around 500 - 600 to spend on parts, but I was going to ask some advice from ya'll. This car is practically stock, it has a SLP Lid and Exhaust (One that came from the factory) and a Hurst Shifter. I would like to get another deeper exhaust on the car, and I'm leaning toward duals. So I had a few questions.
1. With High Flow Cats on it, is it going to be an absolute pain to have this thing inspected if I go with true duals?
2. I have a "inside guy" who can get me some Hooker LTs for $534, should I go with them first?
3. Will duals hook up to the factory headers okay?
4. What is the better size to go with on a exhaust 3" or 2.5"? I've heard of problems with back preasure on the 3".
5. Is there a something else you could suggest before all of this?
My plans for the car are to have a very fast weekend driver that will eventually have a reworked engine an a large shot of nitrous on it, but no trailer queen. Any suggestions ya'll could give would be great.
04-11-2005, 11:27 AM
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If I go for these Hookers will they bolt up to my factory stuff? That's considering if I keep the cats and all.
Also, and really not doing my self much good if the factory cats just choak the crap out of those headers?
Also, and really not doing my self much good if the factory cats just choak the crap out of those headers?
04-11-2005, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 1999T/A
I would definitely go with headers first . One of the best mods you can do to your car . You will definitely feel the difference in power and it will sound great .
That's what I'm thinking, do they bold right up to the exhaust, or do I have to weld them on?
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04-11-2005, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by transamsixspeed
if you do the pacesetters and ory it will bolt right up to your cat back
I don't really want to put the ORY on it, because eventually I want to put duals on it. It may sound dumb, but I don't want to spend money on something I know I'll replace later.
04-11-2005, 12:13 PM
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If you go with pacesetters you can get the headers and the y-pipe for the same amount that you were going to spend on the hookers, then you can run that until you have enough for true duals
04-11-2005, 12:18 PM
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Well besides the price, what is the difference in the PaceSetter Long Tubes? I've heard of many people having trouble with their pacesetter exhausts in the past. They were on import cars, and this was a while ago, but I just got the impression that they were not as good of a brand.
04-11-2005, 12:33 PM
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Pacesetters from what i've heard on this board, have been a quality header for the ls1 f-body. I have jet hots and they fit very good, but they are more expensive. I would recommend either brand based upon previous reviews and my own personal experience. Save your money for true duals if you don't want a y-pipe. Don't waste money on what you don't want. Reasearch everything extensively before you decide to buy because you will find yourself changing your mind. The search button is your best friend. 
04-11-2005, 12:43 PM
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If you have to pass emissions you will not be able to with Long Tube Headers, unless you only have to pass a sniffer test. As long as there's no visual inspection you'll be ok. It sounds like you're confused as to the difference in a stock manifold and a set of long tube headers.
This is similar to what your stock manifolds look like:
This is what the Hooker Long Tubes look like:
As you can see the stock manifolds exit nowhere near where the longtubes will. You have to have a completely different y-pipe in order to run long tube headers. You won't be able to use your stock cats or your stock y-pipe.
If you want to run long tubes and you still want to pass the sniffer test you'll need to purchase either a catted y-pipe or have a shop weld a set of high flow cats onto the off-road y-pipe for you. Chances are you'll have a very hard time finding an exhaust shop that will do this for you since you apparently have emissions where you live.
You also won't be able to pass emissions with a true dual system unless you spend the big bucks it takes to make it exit out the back and stay emissions friendly. Lane's can make this type of exhaust system for you but it is very pricey.
Purchasing long tube headers and staying emissions legal is very expensive and shorty headers, while emissions friendly, aren't worth the effort. I wouldn't try it on your budget. I'd get a nice sounding cat-back until you can afford to go all out.
This is similar to what your stock manifolds look like:
This is what the Hooker Long Tubes look like:
As you can see the stock manifolds exit nowhere near where the longtubes will. You have to have a completely different y-pipe in order to run long tube headers. You won't be able to use your stock cats or your stock y-pipe.
If you want to run long tubes and you still want to pass the sniffer test you'll need to purchase either a catted y-pipe or have a shop weld a set of high flow cats onto the off-road y-pipe for you. Chances are you'll have a very hard time finding an exhaust shop that will do this for you since you apparently have emissions where you live.
You also won't be able to pass emissions with a true dual system unless you spend the big bucks it takes to make it exit out the back and stay emissions friendly. Lane's can make this type of exhaust system for you but it is very pricey.
Purchasing long tube headers and staying emissions legal is very expensive and shorty headers, while emissions friendly, aren't worth the effort. I wouldn't try it on your budget. I'd get a nice sounding cat-back until you can afford to go all out.
04-11-2005, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1Maniac
If you have to pass emissions you will not be able to with Long Tube Headers, unless you only have to pass a sniffer test. As long as there's no visual inspection you'll be ok. It sounds like you're confused as to the difference in a stock manifold and a set of long tube headers.
This is similar to what your stock manifolds look like:
This is what the Hooker Long Tubes look like:
As you can see the stock manifolds exit nowhere near where the longtubes will. You have to have a completely different y-pipe in order to run long tube headers. You won't be able to use your stock cats or your stock y-pipe.
If you want to run long tubes and you still want to pass the sniffer test you'll need to purchase either a catted y-pipe or have a shop weld a set of high flow cats onto the off-road y-pipe for you. Chances are you'll have a very hard time finding an exhaust shop that will do this for you since you apparently have emissions where you live.
You also won't be able to pass emissions with a true dual system unless you spend the big bucks it takes to make it exit out the back and stay emissions friendly. Lane's can make this type of exhaust system for you but it is very pricey.
Purchasing long tube headers and staying emissions legal is very expensive and shorty headers, while emissions friendly, aren't worth the effort. I wouldn't try it on your budget. I'd get a nice sounding cat-back until you can afford to go all out.
This is similar to what your stock manifolds look like:
This is what the Hooker Long Tubes look like:
As you can see the stock manifolds exit nowhere near where the longtubes will. You have to have a completely different y-pipe in order to run long tube headers. You won't be able to use your stock cats or your stock y-pipe.
If you want to run long tubes and you still want to pass the sniffer test you'll need to purchase either a catted y-pipe or have a shop weld a set of high flow cats onto the off-road y-pipe for you. Chances are you'll have a very hard time finding an exhaust shop that will do this for you since you apparently have emissions where you live.
You also won't be able to pass emissions with a true dual system unless you spend the big bucks it takes to make it exit out the back and stay emissions friendly. Lane's can make this type of exhaust system for you but it is very pricey.
Purchasing long tube headers and staying emissions legal is very expensive and shorty headers, while emissions friendly, aren't worth the effort. I wouldn't try it on your budget. I'd get a nice sounding cat-back until you can afford to go all out.
04-11-2005, 01:08 PM
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Where are you located ? I would research emissions laws in your state/county before I bought them for sure . I live in a heavy emissions law state , but in a no emmissions county , so with a tune I pass emissions no problem . As long as I dont have the SES like on , all they do is a safety check and send me on my way . BTW , I have headers and an ORY .
04-11-2005, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1999T/A
Where are you located ? I would research emissions laws in your state/county before I bought them for sure . I live in a heavy emissions law state , but in a no emmissions county , so with a tune I pass emissions no problem . As long as I dont have the SES like on , all they do is a safety check and send me on my way . BTW , I have headers and an ORY .
04-11-2005, 04:27 PM
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I talked to a guy in town about putting on some duals. He said he would do the exhaust part, but he won't touch the headers. If I put some 3" long tubes on with the 3" duals, am I going to have problems with back pressure?
I know that transamsixspeed said that he hasn't heard of this with these cars, but the guy at the shop said that I'd lose some low end torque if I went this big. When I spoke with him, I hadn't discussed putting on the headers and exhaust at the same time(didn't know if that made a difference). Keep in mind this is all because I have NO engine mods at all. Just running this by ya'll as well to see what you think. I know lots of people who have used this guy's shop for exhaust work, and he's supposed to do a really nice job and he's fair.
I know that transamsixspeed said that he hasn't heard of this with these cars, but the guy at the shop said that I'd lose some low end torque if I went this big. When I spoke with him, I hadn't discussed putting on the headers and exhaust at the same time(didn't know if that made a difference). Keep in mind this is all because I have NO engine mods at all. Just running this by ya'll as well to see what you think. I know lots of people who have used this guy's shop for exhaust work, and he's supposed to do a really nice job and he's fair.
