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Are there any side effects to raising my stock A4 idle to 650 for a 25% crank pulley?

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Old 09-29-2005, 08:48 PM
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Default Are there any side effects to raising my stock A4 idle to 800 for a 25% crank pulley?

I've read that the stock idle for some LS1 cars with the A4 is not high enough for a 25% crank pulley as those cars with the stock idle usually experience charging problems and have a hard time just trying to park. I've also read that there are two ways around this--either use an overdrive alternator pulley which will negate some of the gains of the crank underdrive or simply raise the stock 550 idle to 650-675. Is there a side effect to raising the idle by that much? What would be the preferred method of avoiding any charging problems? Thanks in advance for the info.

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Stock idle rpm for A4 LS1 is 550rpm in gear/650rpm in park/neutral.

No problem raising the idle with tuning. I had my '00 WS6 idling at 800/850rpm even before I put the cam in. The only thing is that the higher the idle the more you'll feel the car trying to "pull" through the brakes when you're stopping. This is mostly only noticable with the stock stall TC. As you go bigger (looser) this condition will vanish. But at 650 I doubt you'd feel anything anyway.
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I raised mine by 100 rpm to keep the lights from dimming a tad at night. No side effects of doing this.
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I raised mine by 100 rpm to keep the lights from dimming a tad at night. No side effects of doing this.
You raised your idle to 650 in gear? Thanks in advance for the info.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Stock idle rpm for A4 LS1 is 550rpm in gear/650rpm in park/neutral.

No problem raising the idle with tuning. I had my '00 WS6 idling at 800/850rpm even before I put the cam in. The only thing is that the higher the idle the more you'll feel the car trying to "pull" through the brakes when you're stopping. This is mostly only noticable with the stock stall TC. As you go bigger (looser) this condition will vanish. But at 650 I doubt you'd feel anything anyway.
Thanks a lot for the info. I just went to ASP's website and they recommended a full charge of 800 RPM for their 25% LS1 crank pulley. How would you interpret their "800 RPM full charge"? Does that mean that I should raise my stock 550/650 RPM idle to 800 RPM in gear and 900 RPM in park/neutral? Thanks in advance for the info.
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I have mine at 750 with no problems. With the stall in there, sometimes the car wants to die if I stop quickly, with the A/C on. Yeah, if you have the stock converter, it will push the car more, but not so much that it is a pain. With a stall, you can' t hardly tell
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i had mine raised 50 RPMs.i have some discharging at idle but ive had no problems in over 5 yrs.
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Originally Posted by damon_Z
You raised your idle to 650 in gear? Thanks in advance for the info.
I raised both the "Park" and "In Gear" rpm's by 100.
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Why not get a overdrive altenator pulley?
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Originally Posted by WILWAXU
Why not get a overdrive altenator pulley?
If you can convince me that an overdrive alternator pulley won't decrease the gains from the crank underdrive, then I will think about it. I'm also thinking that it's more cost-effective to just raise the idle through tuning since I'm going to get a dyno-tune after a header installation anyway. I'm just wondering if raising the idle slightly (to 650-800 RPM's) will have a negative side effect such as decreased fuel economy or increased brake wear.
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Increasing the idle isn't going to negatively affect anything. Just give in an additional 100-150 rpm's and be done with it. The overdrive pulley is not necessary and will decrease the gains of the underdrive crank pulley. The additional 100-150 rpm is not noticeable. I have mine up to 850 rpm with the cam and no problems with that.



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