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Old 02-10-2006, 08:21 AM
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i been hearing how fram filters suck so im gonna get a napa gold one but im wondering i just did an oil change like 100mi ago so i dont wanna wast my oil how much more than what the filter holds will i loose if i pulled it off to replace with a new one.
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Less than a quart.

Remove filter, ditch it. Fill your new filter full of oil, install.

Start up and let idle, then turn off and check dipstick. Drink beer.
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damn id love to but im not 21 so no beer plus i dont like beer, now a shot of black haus is where its at. i mean after im 21 that is lol thanks tho im gettin that crappy filter out soon, i always thouught it was a little wierd how small the pasages were in those but it never clicked lol guess it could explain a small drop in oil pressure sense i bought the car sense it had a napa on there when i bought it
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I would recommend the K&N part# 2006 oil filter. Its the longer (truck) model, so it has a little more capacity and will provide you with a little boost in pressure. The K&N filters are going to run you about $11, but they kick ***.


Plus they have a 1" nut on the bottom for easy removal
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why is having more capacity in the filter better, isnt the motor where the oil matters so how is it helping if u can put an extra little bit in the filter?
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3/4 of a quart probably. That's how much it takes to fill up when I do an oil change.
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someone get that man a shirley temple, and good filter.
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Originally Posted by rgaynor85
why is having more capacity in the filter better, isnt the motor where the oil matters so how is it helping if u can put an extra little bit in the filter?
What is the difference between 2.5" and 3" exhaust? (and dont say ground clearance)

I noticed a boost in my oil pressure when I switched out. I should have said "filtration capacity". PLUS, there is more room to put the filtered out BS with a bigger filter
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ok i can understand the filtration capacity but the oil pressure was prolly due to a better flowng filter not so much the size but i supose i think im gonna use the napa gold tho i think its cheaper and alot of people seem to like it
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You can get the napa gold for a truck application LS type engine and still have the benefits of a long filter. I think the AC # is PF58 or 59, just get the napa equivalent.

I've used the M1 long and currently use the K&N long, both excellent filters, but the nut on the K&N hangs below the oil pan. My car is stock height, not a huge worry, but still looks kind of iffy.
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Originally Posted by rgaynor85
the oil pressure was prolly due to a better flowng filter not so much the size
Larger size = better flowing. There is a certain amount of area of mesh for the oil to flow through inside the filter. Increase that area, and you increase the flow rates. Couple this with an overall better flowing medium and you get even better flow. A 2"x3" air filter would work, but not as well as a 8"x12".

This is why i gave the exhaust analogy in my 2nd post.

Nearly everyone on here likes the long filters for the reasons i mentioned. Some dont like them due to the fact they hang lower, but i dont run over too many stumps in my car on a regular basis, so i don't worry too much.


I ran the fram filters for a long time thinking a filter is a filter untill i started reading this board. If the search feature was working, you could probably find alot more evidence as to why you need to switch. People have reportedly opened the frams up and found a lovely cardboard medium. I always liked them because of the easy-grip coating the put on the end
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you could always get the Toilet paper oil filter (aka Frantz oil filter)


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I've been running Fram filters without issues. Sometimes the "hype" on the internet is misleading.




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