Grotohann Full Lengths
03-19-2003, 02:35 AM
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths From what I've heard, Grotyohann does not market headers anymore.
Buy the QTPs (Quick Time Performance)... they are basically the same header.
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Buy the QTPs (Quick Time Performance)... they are basically the same header.
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03-19-2003, 04:15 AM
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths QTP is the sole producer of these style headers, and Thunder is allowed to privately market them. PPC also use the same design however as to how they produce them, I'm unsure. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths Well this guy here Nick
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=7&t=011244
is selling his Grott's but if you click on the dual pics it has a pic of dynatech headers. So whats the deal? here is a direct link they are both of nicks car so whats up????http://www.speeddemonmotorsports.com...les/merge1.jpg
<small>[ March 19, 2003, 06:02 AM: Message edited by: White98Z ]</small>
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=7&t=011244
is selling his Grott's but if you click on the dual pics it has a pic of dynatech headers. So whats the deal? here is a direct link they are both of nicks car so whats up????http://www.speeddemonmotorsports.com...les/merge1.jpg
<small>[ March 19, 2003, 06:02 AM: Message edited by: White98Z ]</small>
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by X']['C WS6:
<strong> QTP is the sole producer of these style headers, and Thunder is allowed to privately market them. PPC also use the same design however as to how they produce them, I'm unsure. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> What!!!! Where do you get your information?? QTP has nothing to do with the production of these style of headers. He buys them from the same manufacture that we buy them from. Please get your facts straight before posting something like this with TR involved.
<strong> QTP is the sole producer of these style headers, and Thunder is allowed to privately market them. PPC also use the same design however as to how they produce them, I'm unsure. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> What!!!! Where do you get your information?? QTP has nothing to do with the production of these style of headers. He buys them from the same manufacture that we buy them from. Please get your facts straight before posting something like this with TR involved.
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by White98Z:
<strong> Who makes Grotohann Full Lengths and where can I buy them? Are they same as Thunders, Dynatech, etc. Thanks </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">To answer your question; the Thunder Racing headers are the same G-han design, but we did away with the emission fitting and used a slip flange instead of a ball flange. Hope this helps...
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<strong> Who makes Grotohann Full Lengths and where can I buy them? Are they same as Thunders, Dynatech, etc. Thanks </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">To answer your question; the Thunder Racing headers are the same G-han design, but we did away with the emission fitting and used a slip flange instead of a ball flange. Hope this helps...
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03-19-2003, 09:26 AM
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Paul @ Thunder:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by X']['C WS6:
<strong> QTP is the sole producer of these style headers, and Thunder is allowed to privately market them. PPC also use the same design however as to how they produce them, I'm unsure. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> What!!!! Where do you get your information?? QTP has nothing to do with the production of these style of headers. He buys them from the same manufacture that we buy them from. Please get your facts straight before posting something like this with TR involved. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So Paul are U saying Barry @ QTP does not produce the stainless steel headers that are for sale on his site? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
<small>[ March 21, 2003, 11:47 AM: Message edited by: Orange Krush ]</small>
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by X']['C WS6:
<strong> QTP is the sole producer of these style headers, and Thunder is allowed to privately market them. PPC also use the same design however as to how they produce them, I'm unsure. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> What!!!! Where do you get your information?? QTP has nothing to do with the production of these style of headers. He buys them from the same manufacture that we buy them from. Please get your facts straight before posting something like this with TR involved. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So Paul are U saying Barry @ QTP does not produce the stainless steel headers that are for sale on his site? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
<small>[ March 21, 2003, 11:47 AM: Message edited by: Orange Krush ]</small>
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths Thanks Paul.
I am still wondering which is which, the Dynatechs are deffiniatly different but the QTP's, Thunder, and PPC all have identical primary designs. What does everyone recommend? The Grots are the proven performers so does that mean I can get QTP's, Thunder's or PPC's? But Coffey has Dynatechs so they can also perform? So does price decide it? Man?????????
I am still wondering which is which, the Dynatechs are deffiniatly different but the QTP's, Thunder, and PPC all have identical primary designs. What does everyone recommend? The Grots are the proven performers so does that mean I can get QTP's, Thunder's or PPC's? But Coffey has Dynatechs so they can also perform? So does price decide it? Man?????????
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So Paul are U saying Barry @ QTP does not produce the stainless steel headers that are for sale on his site? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have no idea who produces his new SS headers, but I think they are still the old Grott design. The mild steel headers that he was selling was not produced by him, but by the same manufacture that makes our headers. The post was made to sound like QTP was the sole producer of the headers and we were getting them from him. Which is totally untrue.
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths I got ya Paul! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Thanx! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
Thanx! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths As paul noted....
Thunder, QTP & PPC are all the original Groty header..... from the same original manufacturer.
The original Groty's that had emissions and ball fittings were not made that way from the Mfg. they were modified with the emissions & ***** AFTER they left the Mfg.
The PPC headers ARE emissioned by the header Manufacturer, so they are fully up to quality.
QTP's SS header is NOT from this manufacturer.
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Thunder, QTP & PPC are all the original Groty header..... from the same original manufacturer.
The original Groty's that had emissions and ball fittings were not made that way from the Mfg. they were modified with the emissions & ***** AFTER they left the Mfg.
The PPC headers ARE emissioned by the header Manufacturer, so they are fully up to quality.
QTP's SS header is NOT from this manufacturer.
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well this guy here Nick
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=7&t=011244
is selling his Grott's but if you click on the dual pics it has a pic of dynatech headers. So whats the deal? here is a direct link they are both of nicks car so whats up????http://www.speeddemonmotorsports.com...les/merge1.jpg </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">this is what has me confused , this guy ( nick )says he has 1.7/8 " grotts and ive heard grotyohann only made 1.3/4 does anyone know for sure??
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=7&t=011244
is selling his Grott's but if you click on the dual pics it has a pic of dynatech headers. So whats the deal? here is a direct link they are both of nicks car so whats up????http://www.speeddemonmotorsports.com...les/merge1.jpg </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">this is what has me confused , this guy ( nick )says he has 1.7/8 " grotts and ive heard grotyohann only made 1.3/4 does anyone know for sure??
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Paul @ Thunder:
<strong> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> What!!!! Where do you get your information?? QTP has nothing to do with the production of these style of headers. He buys them from the same manufacture that we buy them from. Please get your facts straight before posting something like this with TR involved. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Just something I heard from another sponser on the board, and I'll be the first to apologize. As with everything said by any auto technician/ speed shop owner/tech it all comes with a grain of salt.
<strong> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> What!!!! Where do you get your information?? QTP has nothing to do with the production of these style of headers. He buys them from the same manufacture that we buy them from. Please get your facts straight before posting something like this with TR involved. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Just something I heard from another sponser on the board, and I'll be the first to apologize. As with everything said by any auto technician/ speed shop owner/tech it all comes with a grain of salt.
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Re: Grotohann Full Lengths </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by White98Z:
<strong> Well this guy here Nick
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=7&t=011244
is selling his Grott's but if you click on the dual pics it has a pic of dynatech headers. So whats the deal? here is a direct link they are both of nicks car so whats up????http://www.speeddemonmotorsports.com...les/merge1.jpg </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Those are pictures of his former Dynatech stepped longtubes, however the pictures are there advertising the sale of the Dr. Gas X-pipe and turndowns, not the headers. He does indeed have Grotyohann 1 7/8" longtubes which are very much for sale and these were also in tandem with the 1 3/4" produced by Roger Grotyohann.
<strong> Well this guy here Nick
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=7&t=011244
is selling his Grott's but if you click on the dual pics it has a pic of dynatech headers. So whats the deal? here is a direct link they are both of nicks car so whats up????http://www.speeddemonmotorsports.com...les/merge1.jpg </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Those are pictures of his former Dynatech stepped longtubes, however the pictures are there advertising the sale of the Dr. Gas X-pipe and turndowns, not the headers. He does indeed have Grotyohann 1 7/8" longtubes which are very much for sale and these were also in tandem with the 1 3/4" produced by Roger Grotyohann.