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Old 03-31-2003, 05:37 PM
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what is does it mean when you start to "run rich" after a header install? and what do you do to stop from running rich?
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Hey Brent!
Your name is my name too! Don't get to say that too often.
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it means that too much fuel is in the mixture.
Its measured as a Air/Fuel Ratio
To lean it out is too go more air less fuel.

a MAF-T works
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bads02Z28:
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Your name is my name too! Don't get to say that too often.
Brent. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Brent is a pimp name. <img border="0" alt="[pimp]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_pimp.gif" />
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Beware, not all who think they're running rich really are. They go by smell and O2 readings. Not very scientific and very often misleading. A wideband O2 sensor is the way to go.
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he's right ya know
best way to find out is find a local dyno with a wideband A/F meter
i dynoed mine last week for the first time, and got to see my awful mid 11's on the wideband <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Yup, you just never know 'till you dyno with a wideband. After headers my O2 readings were .900-.930mv. You'd think that was on the rich side, right? Well, I had it checked out at MTI and it was 13.3:1. Definitely NOT rich!
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My car is way lean! I dyno'd with stock ported MAF ends and on the sheet, the AFR hits 16:1 then drops to 14.1:1 till red line. I put in a post, but few have responded. Some said to use MAFT. Any opinions?
Thanks.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bads02Z28:
<strong> My car is way lean! I dyno'd with stock ported MAF ends and on the sheet, the AFR hits 16:1 then drops to 14.1:1 till red line. I put in a post, but few have responded. Some said to use MAFT. Any opinions?
Thanks. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your running extremely lean. Get a MAFT or another mass ASP.
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If you have an uported MAF I'd try that. If not, check for vacume leaks. If none, turn the MAF backwards. That will richen it up *some*. I don't know if it will be enough though.

But yeah, a MAFT will fix your problem.
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Thanks for the advice.
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what are some signs of running rich/lean?




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