Dragula

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I'm planning my spring 2007 mods and want to get the 90/90 setup with the lontubes. I currently have a stock engine. I want to get a cam and heads in 2008, but I don't know if the 90/90 setup will be a problem until I upgrade the cam and heads?

I plan on getting AFR 205s and a 224/224 to 230/230 cam.

Will the intake work O.K. until I get the cam and heads a year later?

RrCoX22

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you'll be fine but your gonna probably lose a lot more down low hp/tq compared to something like the ls6 or something until you get your h/c setup. but its good to get it done and outta the way as there is nothing better as it's top notch

presto_z

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since u plan on H/C then go for the 90/90 setup...it is a little over kill for a bolt on only motor but once you do heads and cam your LS1 intake will not be nearly sufficiant and the LS6 intake will limit your power

300bhp/ton

It will be fine, you won't see the best gains from 90/90 until you get the cam but since you are on a Ls1 intake at the moment expect to pickup some HP and run about equal with a Ls6 intake.

BTW - IMO people who claim you loose low end torque with the FAST 90 are generally talking out of their ****. And it only ever comes from people who don't actually own a 90mm setup.

HAMRHEAD

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Go for the 90 setup. Then you won't be wishing you had when you get the h/c setup.

slow trap

iTrader: (22)

you will be o.k but i have to ask why not just go ahead and get the cam you want along with springs and p-rods and have much more power than the 90/90 will give you.i know the 90/90 is a very easy install but it will pretty much be eye candy only untill you have more air going through your motor.of course you could be like most of us and change your mind multiple times over the winter months also and change setups .

300bhp/ton

I guess money is a limiting factor. Sort out the bolt on's know.

To do a cam and probably heads may also require forged pistons, flycutting, new oil pump, timing chain, head bolts, injectors plus a much bigger install and a tune combine that with the cost of the 90/90 and other bolt onsand you're talking a serious wedge of cash.

Andros

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I have a fast 90/nw 90 setup on my stock internal car, i dont have the money to dyno it but i know theres some gain. when i dyno my car ill post results

RrCoX22

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so are you calling me an ****?

do research and you will be shown a difference....
i was personally mentioning it due to him not having a h/c setup to fully benefit the 90/90 setup therefore equalling into minimal loss of low end tq

Dragula

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Thanks for the info!!!! The main reason I don't want to do the cam now is $$$. I'm on a budget now that I'm married and looking to get out of a townhome and into a house.

If I were to get a cam now, I would need all the things 300bhp/ton mentioned plus springs, rockers, pushrods etc. In 2008 when I get the AFR 205, I'll probably order them with dual springs, Jesel shaft mount rockers and appropiate push rods and lifters. This way I won't pay for the parts twice or at least labor to remove and reinstall all those components on the new heads.

Thanks again everyone!!!

hoognenpoocher

I see no problem with it, a little loss on low end, but it'll still be good...

MeentSS02

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IMO, people that claim to keep the low end torque actually own a FAST 90. Do you actually own a FAST 90? I'd like to see your dyno graphs sometime...

01Z0H6

iTrader: (63)

I did not see much if "ANY" gain from my FAST 90/90...
With the LS6 & PP TB i Dynoed @ 401 to the wheels...
90/90 407.... It looks damn good though!!

Dragula

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I didn't plan in gaining from the NW/Fast 90/90 until I get heads and a cam in 2008. I just didn't want drivability issues or to much of a loss. I just wanted to get 1 of the larger puchases out of the way.

300bhp/ton

lol

That's it, I have and I can't find any evidence of loosing low end torque.

All I've found is people being happy with the intake and at the very least matching the LS6 in the lower rpms.

300bhp/ton

Your just being your usual **** with me, wanting only to disagree with what I say.

Maybe I should have kept you on my ignore list.

slow trap

iTrader: (22)

i hear you on the budget but you will not be out much more money with going the cam package and a tune verses 90/90. you will only need
cam= 350.00
p-rods=100.00
springs=200.00 ??
head gaskets=100.00 or so ?
ls6 pump=100.00
a few other odds and ins we'll call it a straight up 1000.00 but if you find a few parts like p-rods and a slightly used cam you will be easily under 1k and you shouldn't need injectors being cam only so then get a tune and you will have a very noticeable gain and then spring time or whenever you could get set of heads or the 90/90,of course that would mean tearing your motor down again in a short period of time.i'm not trying to steer you clear of the 90/90 but on a stock engine it is overkill.everyone has their own opinion and this is just mine and in the end it is all about what you want to do with your money ,anyways when you do go h/c the 90/90 will be a sweet setup so you can't go wrong with it so have fun no mater what path you decide.

YellowToy/A

iTrader: (1)

Save ur money to get a cam.

There little gain with a fast under 5500 rpm. The gain u get is all high RPM. With cam and heads it is every where. Biggest bang for ur buck is a cam. Do the long tubes. Get QTP or Kooks. After that get a cam.

To get a fast now is just a waste of money. It wont hurt, but will give u no power. There is a big bang for the buck with cam.

As u get more money do heads.

Gears are a big bang for the buck to. They are cheap and u will pick up .3. That is 30 HP.