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Old 12-08-2006, 07:01 PM
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Default JBA Shorties..TA 00 on a Camaro 02

Will they fit...Ive ngot a chance to buy a set off a 00 TA and Im trying ito decide if I can use them....Ive searched the JBA site and they show diffrent numbers but they dont look like part numbers
1808 Vs 1807

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I'd wonder what fittings those shorties have. Given they are short headers to carry a CARB exemption, right ???, they probably have AIR and EGR fittings because 98-00 have both systems. So my guess is you'd have to block off the EGR system because your car doesn't have it.
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shorty headers = not a good mod IMO
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Originally Posted by Cop Car
shorty headers = not a good mod IMO
Yeah ..yeah I know all the facts....but if they flow better..even a bit better than the stockers and I get a good cheap deal on a set and can stay legal...them why not.

It meets all the criteria cheap..better than stock and legal..

Im looking at using shorties..in conjunction with a Bassini X system and my FIPK.....In inhale and exhale all freed up..and legal

toss in a CheatTR Cam...and a tune...step up to a set of 3.90's

Im good to go!

But so..Cop Car...can I use them or not...

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I'd wonder what fittings those shorties have. Given they are short headers to carry a CARB exemption, right ???, they probably have AIR and EGR fittings because 98-00 have both systems. So my guess is you'd have to block off the EGR system because your car doesn't have it.
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you say X-Pipe?

.... not legal either bro (if your going no cats) if so... you will need them in the stock locations but sometimes that's even hesitant

'02 manifolds were the better flowing manifolds and your gonna seriously see MINIMAL gains if that

...and yes you'd have to block off the EGR provision on the passenger side manifold
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some of us just want to be 100% legal, so i can understand this question its not worth dealing with the police for 40 hp max
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Originally Posted by RrCoX22
you say X-Pipe?

.... not legal either bro (if your going no cats) if so... you will need them in the stock locations but sometimes that's even hesitant

'02 manifolds were the better flowing manifolds and your gonna seriously see MINIMAL gains if that

...and yes you'd have to block off the EGR provision on the passenger side manifold

hey thanks....Yeah..Im bolting to the stock down tubes..not touching the cats (except to bolt up the JBA's)

Then using the Bassani X pipe from Vinci to a two in two out full sized muffler...Just trying ito maxamixe the cars ability to breath
some of us just want to be 100% legal, so i can understand this question its not worth dealing with the police for 40 hp max
Or do the header dance every other year..take'em off..put the stockers on...do the test..take the stockers off put the headers back on...UGHHHHH
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even if you got them for free you arent going to have a REAL noticable diffrence in track times or hp. just leave well enough alone. they are factory cast iron headers.
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Yes they will fit and work. I have to agree with Cop Car though, you won't gain **** with a set of shorties. It's not worth the time or money to go that route. I went from stock exhaust to longtubes, ory, and a free flowing catback and only gained ~15rwhp/18rwtq. After the tune it was more, but I would be willing to bet those shorties wouldn't net 5rwhp.
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So what do you think the diff will be with them over stock
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Originally Posted by Cop Car
shorty headers = not a good mod IMO
+1 LT's are the way to go !!
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Originally Posted by ws6togo
+1 LT's are the way to go !!
yeah Yeah I know..but....LT's are illegal....
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Originally Posted by BitViper
So what do you think the diff will be with them over stock
you may see 10rwhp MAX with a tune
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Hey 10 HP is 10 more than I had..coupled with what ever I gain for free'ing up the exaust and porting the TB and a mild cam..all with a tune...Seems reasonable..all while not having to hassel with constantly wrenching on my car....

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so are you leaving your stock manifolds alone?
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Originally Posted by Cop Car
so are you leaving your stock manifolds alone?
well yeah until i geta set of JBA's
My overall plan is somthing like:

True Dual system with over the axel into a double in double out muffler
JBA or Stock headers
Port and Polish the TB
OldMan or 224/224 cam
Underdrive pulley
and a set of 3.90s (Im into road racing so 4.10 are too steep)
Tune the mother

Then drive it like I stole it!

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for the record, shorties don't outperform the manifolds because of just flow. they scavenge better. even if stock manifolds flow exactly the same as shorties, the shorties will STILL perform better because they're longer and flow better. i hate it when people say horsepower is gained by longtubes because of flow. that's so not true. nearly all the horsepower gained from longtubes is because of SCAVENGING, NOT FLOW.

the only time it's reasonable to get shorties is in california, and he lives in california, so it's a viable option. to the OP: look into edelbrock shorties, also. they're CARB legal i believe. they may be a better deal.

http://www.byunspeed.com/product_inf...f3a9b0be866d85
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OK to answer your question Yea they WILL fit but the headers will have the emmission hookups in different locations. The headers will also have a tube for the EGR and your a 2002 so you dont have an EGR just little things but they will fit on the car,
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yea you'll need blockoff plats for EGR since '00 cars came with EGR but '01 and '02 cars didn't.




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