Vette Killa

So I live in California and im lookin to go with LT headers and possibly a TD setup. Ive heard people say there is now way to pass smog if i have LT'S....Is this true? If so how hard would it be to put the stock exhaust back on?

Also I have been reading a lot about headers lately and I know that QTP or Kooks are most often the favorite, but how much of a difference is there between Pacesetter ceramic coated headers and say Kooks headers? It just seems like droppin a grand for some headers is a lil bit much

thanks for all the info

BitViper

iTrader: (63)

You cant pass the visual part of te test....

Putting the stoks back on would be as as hard as it was to get them off...then test..then put your LT's back...wait two years..repeat

93_z28

you have to run mid length headers here

camscam02

iTrader: (21)

you cant run mid-length headers in california! any header has to have a CARB sticker and if it doesnt then you cant pass smog! Only shorties are legal in california!

Your best bet is to go with the longtubes then find somebosy that will look past the longtubes and then you will pass if you have cats! without cats most likey you wont pass a regular sniffer test!

93_z28

my pacesetter mids are CARB legal

hers a link to there site http://www.pacesetterexhaust.com/camaro.htm

camscam02

iTrader: (21)

really i did not know that! do they have the sticker?

93_z28

they have a CARB tag on the header itself

camscam02

iTrader: (21)

oh wow surprising! i had no idea thanks for clearing that up! I would still rather have longtubes for the money and performance though! lol

93_z28

so would i,ill be running them soon enough but i wont be driveing around with them

camscam02

iTrader: (21)

lol ya for sure its not that big of deal i have had mine on for 6 months or so!

Formy

I have those exact same shorties. They are not mid lengths. The stock location of the the cats never moves. This is why they are C.A.R.B. approved.

None the less I wish I could run long tubes . These smog laws are just ridiculous.

93_z28

if you have shorties then you dont have the same headers as i do

you have a 99 and i have a 93,we CANT have the same headers

Formy

My bad. I did not realize you had a '93. But your headers are shorties and not midlengths.

93_z28

no there not,they are mids

read this http://www.pacesetterexhaust.com/camaro.htm they are mids and they are 50 state legal

Formy

I drive a '99 and they say that my shorties are midlengths. They are not. It is just an advertising ploy.

There are no pics of the "mid lengths" for your year. I am going to see if I can find some pics

93_z28

i know the diference between a shortie and a mid,i have mids

93_z28

btw,the cat on a 93 is after the Y-pipe so midds dont efect the cat location at all

Formy

I am just curious do your mids look like this?



These are the MACS Mid length. I am just really curious now since this thread started.

Formy

I am trying to get more info since I thought '93 manifolds looked like this:



If your manifolds look like this, I just assumed that the cats would be right under the merge connectors.

93_z28

not exactly,but close