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Old 04-09-2007, 06:09 AM
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Wasn't getting a response in the maitnence section so I'm gonna try here.

Tried a search and it appears to be down.

Ok, so here is the problem. Car will not even turn over. I looked through some other threads and went through the basics. I have hptuners and disable vats....still won't start. Took out the starter and had it tested.........starter works fine.

Now comes to the confusing part. In the fuse box where the relay is for the starter I began testing the connections. I have a constant power on the "30" mark of the relay. And I believe that goes to the "85" to give power to the starter selenoid. When the key is all the way forward to where it should engage the starter I DO have power going to one of the terminals for the relay. So....after testing this I think "Ok, it must be the relay". So I put the key forward and jump the connection with a spare piece of wire I had from the "30" to I believe the "85" and the car started!! Good news.

I then decided to go back to hptuners and enable the vats again. Try to "hotwire" the car to start again and it turns over for a couple of seconds and then dies. So I go back and disable vats once again. Then Hotwire it and it starts and stay running. I run it down to an autoparts store and get a new relay. I plug in the relay and IT STILL WON'T START!!!!

So now I'm really pissed off with this thing. I'm getting all the correction electrical connections to the relay. And when I bypass the relay it will start and stay running. But, when a new relay is in it STILL WON'T START. Also....the security light has been flashing since it wouldn't start a few days ago. I should also add that this came out of no where. I stopped at a gas station, turned the car off, and went inside. I came back and the car wouldn't even turn over. I have a full charge on the battery. It gave me no signs of this problem at all before it stopped working.

So what could be the problem?? Maybe the nuetral safety switch??
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Could be neutral safety switch, i remember my brother's car had a problem when the brakelight switch went out... not sure if it caused a no-start condition though think it just wouldn't let you switch out of Park. Have you tried putting it into neutral and trying to start it with the key?
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yes, i've tried putting it in neutral with the same response...nothing. What gets me is that i can start it from the relay box....and the relay is getting power when the key is all the way forward....but when a new relay was installed it still won't start.
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Do you happen to have a code reader? I'd see if there is any trouble codes... but seems more like an electrical problem. I'm not very good at helping to diagnose without actually seeing the car. So when you jump it from the relay does the car stay running until you turn the ignition key off?
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yes....it stays running. I have hptuners....when i disable vats it will run until i turn the key off. when vats is enabled it will run for only about a second and then turn off
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hmm not the first time i've heard of when vats gets disabled things get messed up. I'm not sure where to point you, maybe gived HPtuners a call?




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