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Old 08-18-2008, 01:58 PM
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Fellas, I just ordered a set of ARHs from Nick. Nice guy BTW, and knows his stuff, but he said he could expand the end of his y-pipe so its a 3" outlet instead of 2 3/4", but I'd have to get my catback expanded to 3" also. He said there is a slight bottleneck there where the y-pipe connects to the catback. I decided to just have him keep the catted y-pipe at 2 3/4".

I was wondering how much power I might lose by not expanding both to 3"? Do you think I made a mistake? I could always expand them at a later date though. Thanks.
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My ARH y pipe merge is 3.5" which welds to my 3.5" Mufflex catback....

That was one reason I went with ARH... Nick was flexible and would fabricate whatever I needed....
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Originally Posted by ATLSS
My ARH y pipe merge is 3.5" which welds to my 3.5" Mufflex catback....

That was one reason I went with ARH... Nick was flexible and would fabricate whatever I needed....
I have a good feeling about these headers after talking to Nick. He's very confident about his products.

I didn't realize anyone went that big. Was it your idea to go so big?

But I was wondering if I'm losing much power by keeping the y-pipe compatible with my catback's stock dimension of 2 3/4"? I know it's going to somewhat interrupt the flow, but it's only a 1/4". Thanks.
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1/4" won't make any real difference.... so if you already have the parts just roll with it...

I wanted to do something outside of the norm...

I use to have a 2nd gen Camaro... SBC... and to me, merging both sides into a single 2.75" pipe just seemed to be a choke to me.... so, I went with 3.5" and love it...

A friend of mine has a 4" merge... using the Flowmaster merge.... and 4" Mufflex catback...

He runs the exact same time at the track open exhaust or closed.... so if that answers your question.

I did not want my exhaust to be a restriction....
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1/4" won't make any real difference.... so if you already have the parts just roll with it...

I wanted to do something outside of the norm...

I use to have a 2nd gen Camaro... SBC... and to me, merging both sides into a single 2.75" pipe just seemed to be a choke to me.... so, I went with 3.5" and love it...

A friend of mine has a 4" merge... using the Flowmaster merge.... and 4" Mufflex catback...

He runs the exact same time at the track open exhaust or closed.... so if that answers your question.

I did not want my exhaust to be a restriction....
Thanks for the info, it sounds like it's working out for you.

So did you have Nick make your y-pipe with a 3.5" OD to match the outlet? I'm getting a mental picture that it's a 3" y-pipe exiting to a 3.5" outlet, then entering a 3.5" inlet to your catback and then narrowing to 3". Just curious.

Glad to hear that in my situation the 1/4" probably won't matter.

Thanks again.
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every 1/4 '' matters
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I have what you are describing... It mated right up to my Magnaflow catback, and if I had it up to 3" I don't know if it would've attached as easily (the i-pipe just so happens to neck down barely at the end to accommodate said y-pipe). Nice choice you will love 'em when they arrive

Will it cost you some power 2-3/4" vs 3"? Maybe. Anything you will EVER feel? Doubt it.

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I hear ya LS1 Freak.

Originally Posted by lastcall190
I have what you are describing... It mated right up to my Magnaflow catback, and if I had it up to 3" I don't know if it would've attached as easily (the i-pipe just so happens to neck down barely at the end to accommodate said y-pipe). Nice choice you will love 'em when they arrive

Will it cost you some power 2-3/4" vs 3"? Maybe. Anything you will EVER feel? Doubt it.

-J
lastcall, that's why I decided to just stay with 2 3/4" because Nick said I would have to take my catback to an exhaust shop and have them enlarge the catback's inlet to 3".

Thanks, I'm really psyched about installing them. I know they'll be worth the two-week wait.

Just to add, you were instrumental in my deciding on ARHs, and I appreciate your help and leading me in the right direction. Thanks again.
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NP. Don't be surprised if it's quicker than two weeks

Glad I could help, there were many others that persuaded me the same so I know how it is

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Originally Posted by lastcall190
Will it cost you some power 2-3/4" vs 3"? Maybe. Anything you will EVER feel? Doubt it.

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I personally don't buy **** to "feel" the difference. If it makes a hundredth of a second at the track then it's worth doing, to me anyways.

Jon
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Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
I personally don't buy **** to "feel" the difference. If it makes a hundredth of a second at the track then it's worth doing, to me anyways.

Jon
I agree if you're racing you should do it, but for me, on the street, there are no time slips.
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Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
I personally don't buy **** to "feel" the difference. If it makes a hundredth of a second at the track then it's worth doing, to me anyways.

Jon
Fair enough
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Originally Posted by Predator
Thanks for the info, it sounds like it's working out for you.

So did you have Nick make your y-pipe with a 3.5" OD to match the outlet? I'm getting a mental picture that it's a 3" y-pipe exiting to a 3.5" outlet, then entering a 3.5" inlet to your catback and then narrowing to 3". Just curious.

Glad to hear that in my situation the 1/4" probably won't matter.

Thanks again.
Here's my post on the setup....

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...acing+american

Enjoy
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Originally Posted by ATLSS
Here's my post on the setup....

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...acing+american

Enjoy
Thanks for the link! I came across your your post during my research but didn't read it as carefully as I should have. Glad to see everything worked out.

I decided to get my WBO2 bung on the passenger side since all my LM-1 wiring goes through the firewall behind the PCM. I hope I didn't make a mistake since you seemed adamant about having it on the driver's side. I'm still not sure why unless the driver's side is known to run leaner.

Anyway, thanks again.
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Originally Posted by Predator
Fellas, I just ordered a set of ARHs from Nick. Nice guy BTW, and knows his stuff, but he said he could expand the end of his y-pipe so its a 3" outlet instead of 2 3/4", but I'd have to get my catback expanded to 3" also. He said there is a slight bottleneck there where the y-pipe connects to the catback. I decided to just have him keep the catted y-pipe at 2 3/4".

I was wondering how much power I might lose by not expanding both to 3"? Do you think I made a mistake? I could always expand them at a later date though. Thanks.
Not much. I have the same setup, 2-3/4" and if fits real well with my Magnaflow catback. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Not much. I have the same setup, 2-3/4" and if fits real well with my Magnaflow catback. I wouldn't worry about it.

Thanks for the reply Hardtop.

Just think though, you could have gone 12.57 instead of 12.58.
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Originally Posted by ATLSS
Here's my post on the setup....

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...acing+american

Enjoy
After seeing the pics of your Y-pipe a while back, I sent mine back to Nick @ ARH and had him make mine a 3.5" also. The price to modify it was reasonable, and the turnaround time was fast to boot!
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I had mine made with the 3" end. It was easy to expand the exhaust. I thought why have a 3" exhaust if you have a 2 3/4" restriction in the middle of the system. No rasp or anything. The car picked up a bunch and has not even been tuned. ARH makes some awesome stuff. Good luck.
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I'm sure the bigger y pipe would give even less clearance than you may have with your lowering springs since that's the lowest point on the car.
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Thanks fellas, anyone have any idea how much HP I'll pick-up switching the JBA shorties for ARHs, and adding a set of ported LS6 243 heads (sig) and 1.8 rockers? I already have the TR224 cam installed. Maybe 50hp?



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