Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Want to Go Faster N/A

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-08-2008, 09:26 PM
  #1  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
bad6as's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,796
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Want to Go Faster N/A

i want to go faster n/a but i only have a few things left to do, but out of the things left what will give me the biggest gains
mods:
free mods
slp lid
k&n air filter
slp lid
shanner s3 ported throttle body
ls6 intake manifold
edelbrock long tubes
ory
cut out be for moroso sprial flow muffler
9" 3.90s
42Lb injectors
232/234 cam

i just got some n20 its a dry 78mm plate so a 90/90 is out of the queston. but would a under drive pulley or some type of ram air from fast toys be the best way to go or could i get the bigger lid and maf and i dont think an ewp is for me dont want to spend that much.
Old 10-08-2008, 09:45 PM
  #2  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
conan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Back in the Burg
Posts: 6,492
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

I know you said you dont want to spend much but the cost to power ratio doesn't seem worth it to me. Have you thought about saving for some heads?
Old 10-08-2008, 09:45 PM
  #3  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
tillery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Dont kno if Another lid will help, How much you weigh?
Old 10-08-2008, 09:48 PM
  #4  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
bad6as's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,796
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

with me its 3675. i went with n20 because the power gains of 150hp for 1300 vs some good tfs heads that gain mab 45 for 2000.
i know a real type of ram air would help and so would a ud pulley but....
Old 10-08-2008, 09:50 PM
  #5  
On The Tree
iTrader: (-2)
 
fox16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Spring, TX
Posts: 130
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

cam and dope???? it usually a pretty nice gain
Old 10-08-2008, 09:54 PM
  #6  
On The Tree
 
Z28Red01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Mt. Royal, NJ
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

At the very least get a lid. I like the SLP ram air kit, FTRA is slightly better but more $$.
Old 10-08-2008, 10:28 PM
  #7  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
TORCHD 02 TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 7,883
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

well i would do a FTRA, i know you dont want to do a FAST 90/90 set up.. then maybe an 85mm Lid and 85mm MAF?
Old 10-09-2008, 08:49 AM
  #8  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
bad6as's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,796
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

so the 85lid and maf would show gains, even thoe its going threw the ported ls1 throttle body and ls6 inkate?

add thoes two things an underdrive pulley and ftra could i see another .4 or 4mph
Old 10-09-2008, 09:01 AM
  #9  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
TORCHD 02 TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 7,883
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bad6as
so the 85lid and maf would show gains, even thoe its going threw the ported ls1 throttle body and ls6 inkate?

add thoes two things an underdrive pulley and ftra could i see another .4 or 4mph
There is a thread debating it right here:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/971896-85-mm-lid-maf-gains.html

But here is my thought. If you get a FAST 90/90, why would you keep your stock 75mm MAF and Lid???? To me that would be a bottle neck. Less air getting in.

So it does make sense to get the 85/85 combo. I will be doing that in the next day or so.

I have my home made version of FTRA and i too have an UDP..
Old 10-09-2008, 01:55 PM
  #10  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
bad6as's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,796
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

you think the home made ftra is better then the real ftra.

we have very close mods and cams so we should see close results. at least i would think so
Old 10-09-2008, 02:41 PM
  #11  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
TORCHD 02 TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 7,883
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bad6as
you think the home made ftra is better then the real ftra.

we have very close mods and cams so we should see close results. at least i would think so
Here is a list of my mods. I need to get the text in my sig darker.

But i ahve no test runs with the home made FTRA. But i know a guy with a slightly larger one (he has no A/C) he gaines .2 or 25RWHP with it

I wish i had a 9" with 4.10s

2002 Trans Am M6

Engine
TSP Cam: 228/232 .588/.595 110+4 | MTI Lid | K&N w/Removed Air Silencer | WS6 Lower Air Box | Home Made Ram Air | P&P TB | TB Body By-Pass | Bump Stop Mod | 160 T-Stat | ASP Pulley
Exhaust
QTP LTs | Custom 3" O/R Y Pipe | Flowmaster Merge | GMMG C/B

Driveline
Pro 5.0 | Textralia Z Grip
Old 10-09-2008, 03:36 PM
  #12  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
bad6as's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,796
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

you talking about chris1211 or some thing
Old 10-09-2008, 03:40 PM
  #13  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
TORCHD 02 TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 7,883
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bad6as
you talking about chris1211 or some thing
Yup that is him chris3113... He made me a FTRA.... but again his is opend soooooo much more b/c he has no condensor in the way.
Old 10-09-2008, 03:54 PM
  #14  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (4)
 
s346k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: johnson co.
Posts: 3,433
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

t-rex, vic jr, and a tune. that should do it.
Old 10-11-2008, 12:47 PM
  #15  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (17)
 
bad6as's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,796
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

can i get a fast toys lid and keep my stock maf
Old 10-11-2008, 05:53 PM
  #16  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
TORCHD 02 TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 7,883
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bad6as
can i get a fast toys lid and keep my stock maf
you can but would need a coupler at the end of your lid to mate up with the front of the MAF....
Old 10-11-2008, 06:08 PM
  #17  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (48)
 
quiet_storm98's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,017
Received 20 Likes on 19 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
Yup that is him chris3113... He made me a FTRA.... but again his is opend soooooo much more b/c he has no condensor in the way.
any pics of this home made ramair?? Im interested in something like that
Old 10-11-2008, 09:35 PM
  #18  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
TORCHD 02 TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 7,883
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by quiet_storm98
any pics of this home made ramair?? Im interested in something like that
It looks identical to the one that Fast Toys produces. I had like 3 pics but i deleted them
Old 10-11-2008, 10:02 PM
  #19  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (48)
 
quiet_storm98's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,017
Received 20 Likes on 19 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
It looks identical to the one that Fast Toys produces. I had like 3 pics but i deleted them
o ok..i have a fast toys but i didn't really notice a difference, i also have my a/c removed so i was wondering if he had done something that would suck more air from the area where the condenser was
Old 10-11-2008, 10:22 PM
  #20  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
TORCHD 02 TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 7,883
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by quiet_storm98
o ok..i have a fast toys but i didn't really notice a difference, i also have my a/c removed so i was wondering if he had done something that would suck more air from the area where the condenser was

I still have my A/C, so the one you have look identical to mine. Now the one that Chris3113 has is a lot bigger. He does not have A/C anymore. So his opening is WAY bigger...



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:02 PM.