Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

What do you think of this intake set up for me?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-09-2008, 07:22 AM
  #1  
Launching!
Thread Starter
 
Droptoplt1ta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Clinton Twp, MI
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Question What do you think of this intake set up for me?

*I DO NOT HAVE THE CASH FOR 90/90*

My car is a heads / cam / full exhaust LS1.

I have a 98' LS1 intake on it with a home ported TB.

This is what I came up for an intake set up: (all new parts)

BBK intake manifold (has 85mm opening) $400
Perf Products 85 MM TB $160
85mm MAF and harness $80

Total $640

So for less than $650 I would have a 85/85 set up. Do you think that would be a good horsepower per dollar gain for me?

OR

Should I just get a used LS6 intake for $300????
Old 10-09-2008, 07:26 AM
  #2  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
z28mccrory's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 756
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Im in the exact same boat on my 98 TA. Im very curious to see what you are told.
Old 10-09-2008, 07:53 AM
  #3  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
tillery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Get the LS6 intake.
Old 10-09-2008, 08:47 AM
  #4  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (19)
 
motoo344's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Doylestown, PA
Posts: 1,072
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Save yourself even more money and just get a LS6 and porter stock tb. Either that or just wait till you can afford a fast. Honestly, at 650 you are not that far enough from being able to buy a used fast 90/90.
Old 10-09-2008, 09:07 AM
  #5  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
TORCHD 02 TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 7,883
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Like others have said just get the LS6 intake. it is a priven intake. Or jsut save up more moeny fort the FAST 90/90. The stock P&P TB is great too


i am going to be buying a 85mm LId and 85mm MAF. Next i will get 42# injectors. then spring time it will be a FAST 92/92 combo for me...
Old 10-09-2008, 12:01 PM
  #6  
Launching!
Thread Starter
 
Droptoplt1ta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Clinton Twp, MI
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Anyone else?
Old 10-09-2008, 12:45 PM
  #7  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (3)
 
Grimes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 2,636
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Just get the LS6 intake.
Old 10-09-2008, 02:19 PM
  #8  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (28)
 
WYATT318MOPAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Grayson, KY 41143
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Just run a full bolt on car last weekend with a BBK SSI 85mm intake, Professional Products 85 TB, and a granatelli 85 MAF...has victor Jr headers wrapped, 1.75 rockers, SLP flowpak, Powerbond 25% underdrive. Put 334 to the wheels through a M6 & 4.10. So I don't know what a 90/90 would turn out on just a bolt on car but that is what it has to offer on a stock shortblock car with no cam..
Old 10-09-2008, 02:29 PM
  #9  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
z28mccrory's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 756
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

I hear the BBK intake heat soaks really bad. Any truth to that?
Old 10-09-2008, 02:46 PM
  #10  
Launching!
Thread Starter
 
Droptoplt1ta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Clinton Twp, MI
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by z28mccrory
I hear the BBK intake heat soaks really bad. Any truth to that?

I hear the heat soak is a non issue.

ONLY if you are sitting in trafic.

If you are moving, the air moves so fast it does not get heat soaked.
Old 10-09-2008, 02:50 PM
  #11  
TECH Fanatic
 
99345hp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,516
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by WYATT318MOPAR
Just run a full bolt on car last weekend with a BBK SSI 85mm intake, Professional Products 85 TB, and a granatelli 85 MAF...has victor Jr headers wrapped, 1.75 rockers, SLP flowpak, Powerbond 25% underdrive. Put 334 to the wheels through a M6 & 4.10. So I don't know what a 90/90 would turn out on just a bolt on car but that is what it has to offer on a stock shortblock car with no cam..

334?? That seems very low to me. I am putting down 346 to the wheels and I am still on the stock LS1 intake and stock throttle body and stock pulley. I wonder why his numbers were so low.
Old 10-09-2008, 02:56 PM
  #12  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (28)
 
WYATT318MOPAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Grayson, KY 41143
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 99345hp
334?? That seems very low to me. I am putting down 346 to the wheels and I am still on the stock LS1 intake and stock throttle body and stock pulley. I wonder why his numbers were so low.
Didnt seem to low really we run it on a dynojet chassis dyno and put a tune on it...Right where just about every other bolt on only car that has been run there.
Old 10-10-2008, 10:22 AM
  #13  
Launching!
Thread Starter
 
Droptoplt1ta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Clinton Twp, MI
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

I see a lot of people are saying LS6 intake here, but I am having a hard time seeing a 78mm intake making more power than a 85/85 set up on my heads and cam engine?
Old 10-10-2008, 09:32 PM
  #14  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (7)
 
99SSAGUI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Ennis, TX
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I will have to agree with a lot of people here, get the ls6 or save a little more for a use 90/90 setup. Eventually you will want a 90/90 so just wait if you can (I know how it is to be short on budget and wanting to do something right away).
Old 10-11-2008, 09:31 AM
  #15  
Launching!
iTrader: (6)
 
thebulgd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I say go for it. Sure as hell cant hurt. 85mm is going to let more air through than a 78mm, and porting a stocker still leaves you with a 75mm throttle opening. You know what I'm going to do a FTP lid, factory de-screened Z06 maf, and a ProProducts 85mm throttle body into an LS6 intake. I'll get the typhoon or something later. All that is ever recomended on this site anymore is the LS6 or fast combo, pheh, get used to hearing it.
Old 10-11-2008, 09:41 AM
  #16  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (33)
 
LS1-450's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,783
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 99345hp
334?? That seems very low to me. I am putting down 346 to the wheels and I am still on the stock LS1 intake and stock throttle body and stock pulley. I wonder why his numbers were so low.


His numbers are quite good actually. It's the auto & the 4.10's that cause his numbers to be less than yours. That's why dynos are for tuning & not talkin'.
Old 10-11-2008, 09:48 AM
  #17  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (33)
 
LS1-450's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,783
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Droptoplt1ta
Anyone else?

Used aluminum Weiand for $200-$300 off e-bay. Open the intake's TB port to 85mm & clean up the internal runners. Also, check Summit for the 85mm TB. I don't recall their price, but remember it to be lower than all others. Stick w/ the stock MAF until you can pay for a tune. The 85mm MAF table should be re-scaled & then checked to see whether or not you run out of frequency. If the 85mm MAf runs out of frequency, then the tuner will need to confirm that the VE tables from the RPM where frequency ends, on up, are correct for WOT fueling.

Another option is to buy an 85mm MAF that has added frequency. I recall a sponsor selling one. Don't remember for sure; might be SLP. This could save you a tune.....maybe. Speak w/ the vendor to make sure. Good-luck & you're on the right track with your plan.
Old 10-11-2008, 01:39 PM
  #18  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (33)
 
LS1-450's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,783
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jeffbab
He mentioned it was a M6.

Oh,....I read his mod list where it says 3700 stall...etc.. So, I guess he's talking about a different car. Either way, numbers aren't bad.
Old 10-11-2008, 01:54 PM
  #19  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (21)
 
Mean87SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Edison, NJ
Posts: 1,407
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Get a LS6, and keep the stock TB.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:38 AM.