cam choice, what cam do u recomend?
01-03-2009, 03:32 AM
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cam choice, what cam do u recomend? i kno most of you are going to think this is a pointless thread. most will waste time and say dumb ****, but im looking for some help and thats what this site is for. i am looking to put a cam in my ls1. it is a daily driver so i dont want ne thing too radical. but i do want to gain some power.so i need to find a happy medium. i also would like to be able to run stock valvetrain, to make installation easier. thanks in advance!!!
01-03-2009, 03:43 AM
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There is no cam beside stock that will allow you to run stock valvetrain. You'll need springs and pushrods and with 74K also a timing chain.
Cam should come last after all bolt ons done so get headers first.
Best entry cam is a 224/224 cam like TR224 on a 112 LSA
Cam should come last after all bolt ons done so get headers first.
Best entry cam is a 224/224 cam like TR224 on a 112 LSA
01-03-2009, 03:56 AM
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i have headers and y pipe. just not installed. a buddy of mine says he put a cam in his ls1 and didnt have to change nething. im not saying ur wrong but i didnt kno if it was possible. (i didnt think it was)
01-03-2009, 04:02 AM
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Your buddy is not too smart if he did so. Even if you put just a LS6 cam in you need to change at least springs. Pushrods are recommended because with harsher seat pressures, they just flex, but you can get away without them on small cams like GM Hot Cam.
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01-03-2009, 05:16 AM
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It all depends on the cam. Take for exemple a TR224
With it you'll need Comp 918s or Pac singles (can reuse retainers, need new locks)
TR sells complete packages.
Also you'll need to budget 4>500$$ for a tune. So all in all you are looking at ~1000$ for a complete cam package.
There are cheaper options, like I mentionned Hot Cam, you can reuse stock pushrods, you'll need LS6 springs (02>04), but still will need a tune.
Caming without a tune is retarded and harmfull to your motor.
With it you'll need Comp 918s or Pac singles (can reuse retainers, need new locks)
TR sells complete packages.
Also you'll need to budget 4>500$$ for a tune. So all in all you are looking at ~1000$ for a complete cam package.
There are cheaper options, like I mentionned Hot Cam, you can reuse stock pushrods, you'll need LS6 springs (02>04), but still will need a tune.
Caming without a tune is retarded and harmfull to your motor.
01-03-2009, 11:34 AM
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It all depends on the cam. Take for exemple a TR224
With it you'll need Comp 918s or Pac singles (can reuse retainers, need new locks)
TR sells complete packages.
Also you'll need to budget 4>500$$ for a tune. So all in all you are looking at ~1000$ for a complete cam package.
There are cheaper options, like I mentionned Hot Cam, you can reuse stock pushrods, you'll need LS6 springs (02>04), but still will need a tune.
Caming without a tune is retarded and harmfull to your motor.
With it you'll need Comp 918s or Pac singles (can reuse retainers, need new locks)
TR sells complete packages.
Also you'll need to budget 4>500$$ for a tune. So all in all you are looking at ~1000$ for a complete cam package.
There are cheaper options, like I mentionned Hot Cam, you can reuse stock pushrods, you'll need LS6 springs (02>04), but still will need a tune.
Caming without a tune is retarded and harmfull to your motor.
hey predator i got a ported 92 coming in the mail
haha
01-03-2009, 12:50 PM
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yup that is why it isnt worth it to try and do a budjet cam install, you are looking at around a $1000 anyways so you might as well get a decent size cam and some dual springs which arent that much more money to get more bang for your buck...
hey predator i got a ported 92 coming in the mail haha
hey predator i got a ported 92 coming in the mail
hahaIt will cost him double if he stuffs a stupid big cam in there and hates driving his car and only has to change it out.
I almost passed out when I saw Pred recommend the TR224.
One thing though, you dont need to change locks with stock retainers.
The PAC springs are true drop in replacements. You re-use your OEM retainers and so the locks go with them.
Sticking around the TR224 or 224/228 is good way to go. You'll have plenty of power under the curve (more usable form). Bigger cams move the power band up and not every one likes having to keep the rpms in the upper range to pass someone. Bigger cams make more power up top and unless your rpms are up top your are not utilizing that power. Gas consumption goes way up as well. There are trade offs. Yes the bigger cams pull like a freight train once you hit their sweet spot but the power getting to that point is quite unimpressive and in some cases just plain poor.
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I second going with a 224.
But to the original poster, I'd suggest just installing the exhaust upgrades you've ordered first and enjoy the car as is for awhile. Good headers will perk the car up nicely and you can always do more invasive/costly mods later on. Plus you might discover you hate the noise level and a more aggressive cam will just make it more so.
But to the original poster, I'd suggest just installing the exhaust upgrades you've ordered first and enjoy the car as is for awhile. Good headers will perk the car up nicely and you can always do more invasive/costly mods later on. Plus you might discover you hate the noise level and a more aggressive cam will just make it more so.
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Since when does budget have anything to do with a cam choice?
It will cost him double if he stuffs a stupid big cam in there and hates driving his car and only has to change it out.
I almost passed out when I saw Pred recommend the TR224.
One thing though, you dont need to change locks with stock retainers.
The PAC springs are true drop in replacements. You re-use your OEM retainers and so the locks go w
Sticking around the TR224 or 224/228 is good way to go. You'll have plenty of power under the curve (more usable form). Bigger cams move the power band up and not every one likes having to keep the rpms in the upper range to pass someone. Bigger cams make more power up top and unless your rpms are up top your are not utilizing that power. Gas consumption goes way up as well. There are trade offs. Yes the bigger cams pull like a freight train once you hit their sweet spot but the power getting to that point is quite unimpressive and in some cases just plain poor.
It will cost him double if he stuffs a stupid big cam in there and hates driving his car and only has to change it out.
I almost passed out when I saw Pred recommend the TR224.
One thing though, you dont need to change locks with stock retainers.
The PAC springs are true drop in replacements. You re-use your OEM retainers and so the locks go w
Sticking around the TR224 or 224/228 is good way to go. You'll have plenty of power under the curve (more usable form). Bigger cams move the power band up and not every one likes having to keep the rpms in the upper range to pass someone. Bigger cams make more power up top and unless your rpms are up top your are not utilizing that power. Gas consumption goes way up as well. There are trade offs. Yes the bigger cams pull like a freight train once you hit their sweet spot but the power getting to that point is quite unimpressive and in some cases just plain poor.
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I second going with a 224.
But to the original poster, I'd suggest just installing the exhaust upgrades you've ordered first and enjoy the car as is for awhile. Good headers will perk the car up nicely and you can always do more invasive/costly mods later on. Plus you might discover you hate the noise level and a more aggressive cam will just make it more so.
But to the original poster, I'd suggest just installing the exhaust upgrades you've ordered first and enjoy the car as is for awhile. Good headers will perk the car up nicely and you can always do more invasive/costly mods later on. Plus you might discover you hate the noise level and a more aggressive cam will just make it more so.
01-03-2009, 05:35 PM
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Since when does budget have anything to do with a cam choice?
It will cost him double if he stuffs a stupid big cam in there and hates driving his car and only has to change it out.
I almost passed out when I saw Pred recommend the TR224.
One thing though, you dont need to change locks with stock retainers.
The PAC springs are true drop in replacements. You re-use your OEM retainers and so the locks go with them.
Sticking around the TR224 or 224/228 is good way to go. You'll have plenty of power under the curve (more usable form). Bigger cams move the power band up and not every one likes having to keep the rpms in the upper range to pass someone. Bigger cams make more power up top and unless your rpms are up top your are not utilizing that power. Gas consumption goes way up as well. There are trade offs. Yes the bigger cams pull like a freight train once you hit their sweet spot but the power getting to that point is quite unimpressive and in some cases just plain poor.
It will cost him double if he stuffs a stupid big cam in there and hates driving his car and only has to change it out.
I almost passed out when I saw Pred recommend the TR224.
One thing though, you dont need to change locks with stock retainers.
The PAC springs are true drop in replacements. You re-use your OEM retainers and so the locks go with them.
Sticking around the TR224 or 224/228 is good way to go. You'll have plenty of power under the curve (more usable form). Bigger cams move the power band up and not every one likes having to keep the rpms in the upper range to pass someone. Bigger cams make more power up top and unless your rpms are up top your are not utilizing that power. Gas consumption goes way up as well. There are trade offs. Yes the bigger cams pull like a freight train once you hit their sweet spot but the power getting to that point is quite unimpressive and in some cases just plain poor.
i meant good size in comparision to the ls6 cam mentioned...
