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Old 03-10-2009, 10:12 PM
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A piece of crank thread came out stuck on the bolt, now what? Tap it and re-thread, pull the motor? Part it out? lol
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I just threaded in an old stock bolt I have laying around and it threaded down no problem. Should I just use a thread chaser and hope for the best?
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What did you end up doing to get it out?
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Bought a 3/4" breaker bar.
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Well how big of a piece of threads came out? If it was substantial then you'll need to have it corrected, otherwise I would run a tap down through it (Same size as the original bolt obviously) to clean the threads up and then just go with it. Should be fine. BTW, I'm sure you already know this but be sure to use a new bolt...
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I would use a thread chaser. A tap will remove material, something you may not want to do with the damage already in the threads. If you are using an ARP bolt, lube it good with ARP moly lube and run it in and out a few times by hand to make sure you have good threads. Lube the washer as well. Then put several washers under it to space it out as if the pulley was in place and see if the crank threads will take the required 190 lb-ft of torque that the ARP bolt requires when their lubricant is used. If that holds you should be able to install the pulley using the correct tools (not a bolt of any kind).

That damage was likely not done by the ARP bolt but rather during the removal/installation process if you used a bolt to push against with the puller or used a bolt to re-install (even a longer bolt). In other words, if you followed the procedures in LS1howto.com, that was likely the original source of the thread damage.
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Gonna try and use a thread chaser, where can I get this moly lube at? Anybody know the size thread chaser I need and where I can get it?
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you can use 30WT oil also
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Anyone that sells ARP products will sell the moly lube. Google the thread chaser, it appears that ARP doesn't sell one that large.
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
Anyone that sells ARP products will sell the moly lube. Google the thread chaser, it appears that ARP doesn't sell one that large.
Do you know the size off hand?
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Originally Posted by slothy
you can use 30WT oil also
Thanks, I might end up doing this also so I don't have to wait on the lube. I just never thought you would want to put anything on the threads besides loc-tite?
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Originally Posted by DeerHunter_Z28
Thanks, I might end up doing this also so I don't have to wait on the lube. I just never thought you would want to put anything on the threads besides loc-tite?
I used 30wt on my studs no problems here. But I think the tq specs change from the moly to 30wt I would call But I cant remeber the spec.
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The bolt is 16mm x 2.0
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I'd just take a stock bolt and grind off 4 sides so its a chase.
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Originally Posted by DeerHunter_Z28
Thanks, I might end up doing this also so I don't have to wait on the lube. I just never thought you would want to put anything on the threads besides loc-tite?
The preload in the ARP bolt is determined by measuring torque, as opposed to the stock bolt which is preloaded through a pre-determined rotation. With either approach, the desired result is a known bolt stretch/preload in the joint. When you measure with a torque wrench, the biggest variable is the friction in the threads. The way to keep the friction so that it is consistent and predictable is to use a lubricant that provides the desired characteristics. The ARP Moly Lube is used to ensure a predictable friction in the joint. While they do say that 30W oil can be used, more consistent results are obtained with their lube. With where you currently stand and the problems you had, I would use the ARP Moly Lube and stick with the torque value provided by ARP.
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Originally Posted by W es 6
The bolt is 16mm x 2.0
Thank you sir
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
The preload in the ARP bolt is determined by measuring torque, as opposed to the stock bolt which is preloaded through a pre-determined rotation. With either approach, the desired result is a known bolt stretch/preload in the joint. When you measure with a torque wrench, the biggest variable is the friction in the threads. The way to keep the friction so that it is consistent and predictable is to use a lubricant that provides the desired characteristics. The ARP Moly Lube is used to ensure a predictable friction in the joint. While they do say that 30W oil can be used, more consistent results are obtained with their lube. With where you currently stand and the problems you had, I would use the ARP Moly Lube and stick with the torque value provided by ARP.
Thanks, I'll just grab the lube somewhere! Thanks again guys
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Good luck, hope it all works out.




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