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Old 10-20-2003, 11:32 AM
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Saturday night i thought i blew my 382 LS1 Stroker. I was at WOT in 3rd gear at about 4500 rpms when wham i herd a noise and the motor just shut off.

I coasted to a stop and tried to start the motor with no luck. It was like the motor was seized. Today i got it to the shop and the valvetrain is frozen. They are guessing that the stock timing chain broke.

Was the stock chain not up to the task of a X1 cammed stroker?

What chain should i go with?
Old 10-20-2003, 01:26 PM
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That sux...sorry about that!

If the stock chain broke, start to worry about the cost of a new long block....
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Get a double roller setup. Rollmaster sells one.
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I second that; this chain is really stout and has zero slack....get the torrington bearing one too...I had to drill the peg hole in the big sprocket (1/4 inch drill) for the cam peg ...but no biggie...

really an excellent value at around $80 bucks...

There was a survey here a few weeks back about broken timing chains....One Rollmaster double did break - I was surprised....
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Default Re: Broken Timing Chain?

When that happened to me I bent 7 of the intake valves.
Old 10-20-2003, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: Broken Timing Chain?

uh, why were you running a stock chain on a cammed/stroked setup any?

get the rollmaster 2x chain, i got one and its definately a beefy setup.
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I dont know why i was running a stock chain. For 80-150 bucks it seems like cheap insurance. I thought i had researched everything before having this motor built for me. All the way down to the oil pump. And this little tiny cheap part might cost me alot of $$$.

I feel like a idiot. This was my daily driver!
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I dont know why i was running a stock chain. For 80-150 bucks it seems like cheap insurance. I thought i had researched everything before having this motor built for me. All the way down to the oil pump. And this little tiny cheap part might cost me alot of $$$.

I feel like a idiot. This was my daily driver!
who built the motor, im suprised no one told you to get a better chain. during my cam research everybody told me to get a new chain and oil pump since my car has high mileage.

lets just hope you dont have alot of damaged valves
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Man I would hunt down the cause. Plenty of people are turning serious RPM's with the stock chain without problems. The aftermarket chains seem to break almost as often as the stockers. Maybe more. Also some of the chains with no slack I have heard wear on the cam bearings pretty hard.
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Default Re: Broken Timing Chain?

Is anyone using the heavy duty single roller GM chain? I think it's the one used in the C5R. I like the idea of a stronger chain, but maybe not so tight that it will cause excessive wear on the cam bearings.
Sorry to hear about your misfortune Mike. Hopefully it won't get too expensive.
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I broke a JWIS Chain last year bent 7 intake and 2 exhaust valves.
Old 10-21-2003, 01:52 AM
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Ok, the statement about the cam bearings is misleading. If you have any kind of aggressive cam and you have new springs, they put more stress on the cam bearings than the timing chain does.
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Default Re: Broken Timing Chain?

I second that; this chain is really stout and has zero slack....get the torrington bearing one too...I had to drill the peg hole in the big sprocket (1/4 inch drill) for the cam peg ...but no biggie...

really an excellent value at around $80 bucks...

There was a survey here a few weeks back about broken timing chains....One Rollmaster double did break - I was surprised....
I ordered the Rollmaster W/Torrington bearing, but have not done the install yet. Is it necessary to drill for the cam peg, and is the drilling location marked on the sprocket?
Old 10-21-2003, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: Broken Timing Chain?

Oh man, I broke mine with ARE heads and a tr224, well SEVERAL thousands later I am up and running.
Heres what happened to me. I was up in the rpms in third so its probably not as bad for you.

kissed all 8 pistons with huge eyelashes (junk)
bent every single valve like an L (junk)
collapsed several lifters (junk)
shaved two lobes off of tr224 ( junk)
destroyed cam tunnel (block junk)
bent a few hardened push rods
needed to have heads repaired as well and some more crap Im sure

So now I sport a forged ls6 with 3.905 bore and the first thing I bought was a double roller.
Good luck
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Default Re: Broken Timing Chain?

Also some of the chains with no slack I have heard wear on the cam bearings pretty hard.
I've heard someone speculate on that, but they admitted it was speculation and didn't show proof or evidence of it at the time.
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Default Re: Broken Timing Chain?

I am expecting around 525rwhp and was planning on keeping the stock timing chain. I only have about 31k miles on it. Is this is bad idea?
Old 10-22-2003, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Broken Timing Chain?

If you dont want to go through what im going through do it!

I mean a 10000 dollar motor .vs a 120 dollar part its a no brainer.

Get a better chain.
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Well according to that other thread(the poll) the double rollers seem to break as often as the stockers? But I suppose I will get one anyhow... Where is the cheapest place to get one?
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Default Re: Broken Timing Chain?

SDPC sells the Rollmaster W/Torrington bearing and nitrided sprockets for around $85. I've seen other brands that sell for much more.
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Default Re: Broken Timing Chain?

Damn mike im sorry to hear about this.. if their is anything i can do to help give me a shout or shoot me an e-mail.....i broke a timing chain on my lt1 i fucked my heads up bad....it drove the valves in the head sideways talk about a shock .....i know how you feel...



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