Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

3k in engine???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-22-2003, 08:56 AM
  #1  
TECH Addict
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Assassin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Nevada
Posts: 2,437
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default 3k in engine???

I mite az well spend some cash, whats the best combo you guys would reccomend if you only had 3K to spend?, exclude driveline, thats allready spoken for!, I plan to run a 150 or higher shot to make some serious numbers, I'd like to go turbo if I can get the extra green, but dont add that to the bill, nor the n2o, just internals, like, cam (specs), pistons, rods, springs, rockers, heads, what kind of set up would you put on if you had to do it again, or that you're allready happier than **** with!, add alot of detail!, just trying to crunch the numbers, also exclude about 200 in gaskets and oil and ect...


edit: just read the post realizing around 2k just for heads, so make it 4K total
Old 10-22-2003, 10:59 AM
  #2  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
onyxxtreme's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Locust Fork, AL
Posts: 1,550
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 3k in engine???

Im building a pretty stout H/C 347 for around $4k +/- including machine work and balancing.
The majority of the parts are coming from TSP.
I would have bought all the damn parts by now if the bank wouldn't take their time with giving me some $$$$

Old 10-22-2003, 11:05 AM
  #3  
TECH Resident
 
stealth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 868
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 3k in engine???

U can't do much for $3k, maybe heads and cam parts.
Old 10-22-2003, 12:36 PM
  #4  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Scalpel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Lexington, Ky
Posts: 7,000
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: 3k in engine???

You can get a forged MTI 347 shortblock:
347 cid
Stock 3.6" crank - nodular iron
Manley Sportsman rods - 6.100"
Wiseco flat top pistons - 3.903" bore

Price: $2995.00**
**block & crank exchange or $1000 core charge.
Old 10-22-2003, 01:22 PM
  #5  
TECH Enthusiast
 
Excal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 698
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 3k in engine???

^that sounds good, how much more $$ would it take to finish the engine (heads/cam ect ect)- providin one has no core.

(as in a v6-v8 conversion)
Old 10-22-2003, 01:37 PM
  #6  
Super Moderator
iTrader: (9)
 
Reckless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Canton, GA
Posts: 10,052
Received 32 Likes on 16 Posts

Default Re: 3k in engine???

That's a pretty good deal. I just built a short block for a little less, but you would get some insurance buying from MTI.

Here's a break out of what I spent:

- Iron 6.0L block - $450 (no machining - stock 4" bore)
- Stock 5.7L crank (new) - $350
- Eagle H-Beam rods with ARP bolts - ~$500
- Forged pistons w/rings - $700
- Balance rotating assembly - variable, but t was $120 for me
- Bearings (all) - ~$250

So you can see parts alone can run over $2k. I could have bored the iron block .030 over for a 370cid, but saved the cash and got a good deal on 4-inch bore pistons. I ended up with a 6.0L motor (364cid) capable of 200-250hp shots of the gas. If it were built with lower compression, then it would handle 15 psi with no problem.

So the MTI 346 deal is pretty good, and you don't get dirty
Old 10-22-2003, 01:39 PM
  #7  
TECH Senior Member
 
BIGBOS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chi-Town, IL
Posts: 11,603
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: 3k in engine???

I got a pretty good deal through Speed Inc. when I did my motor, I went the iron block route which is a little more expensive, but the aluminum block w/stock crank was in the $3k range, so far my 6.0L motor is rock solid...
Old 10-22-2003, 01:41 PM
  #8  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Scalpel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Lexington, Ky
Posts: 7,000
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: 3k in engine???

^that sounds good, how much more $$ would it take to finish the engine (heads/cam ect ect)- providin one has no core.

(as in a v6-v8 conversion)
Depends on the heads/cam you go with. You could pick up a set of stock heads for $200 w/springs and valves (5.7L) and a stock cam for $20, Stock R-rods $40 (used).
Old 10-22-2003, 01:42 PM
  #9  
TECH Veteran
 
robertbartsch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Hartsdale, NY
Posts: 4,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: 3k in engine???

$3K is a bunch of $!

You can get SDPC ported ls6 heads, a cam, oil pump, timing chain, hardned pushrods for that dough and have some left over.... SDPC------>
Old 10-22-2003, 01:44 PM
  #10  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Scalpel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Lexington, Ky
Posts: 7,000
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: 3k in engine???

$3K is a bunch of $!

You can get SDPC ported ls6 heads, a cam, oil pump, timing chain, hardned pushrods for that dough and have some left over.... SDPC------>
Why build a nitrous motor without beefing up the internals to take it. Everyone neglects the internals and then they wonder why they get melted pistons, etc.

Do it right the first time. Forged rods/pistons, then do the H/C of choice. Remeber, you pay for what you get.
Old 10-22-2003, 09:52 PM
  #11  
Teching In
 
largecubes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: houston, tx
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 3k in engine???

Assassin, I have a forged short block for sale in the part section. All new parts. I will sell for 2900. Comes with a double roller timing set. I can send you pics if interested.
Old 10-22-2003, 10:02 PM
  #12  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (3)
 
Classic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: NC
Posts: 1,943
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: 3k in engine???

Don't forget guys, with most of the aluminum block shortblocks that price is before the core charge. With an iron block there is no core, so it is more expensive up front, but if you sell your stock motor after you get your new one, it nets you about the same.
Old 10-23-2003, 02:41 PM
  #13  
TECH Enthusiast
 
Excal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 698
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 3k in engine???

MTI 370 cid Iron shortblock---3995

MTI 347 cid Aluminum shortblock- 2995 (plus core or $1000)

One weighs more, but the otherhas .3l of displacement over the other.

any other downfall to the iron block? let's say..Rev-wise?

is there any problem with the iron shortblock using stock aluminum heads? (better yet ls6 heads lol)




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:38 AM.