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Default Dynograph of 491hp 5.3L with TF 205 heads...

Since I have the dyno sheets I thought I would post..

We took off the car headers and put on a set of sand rail headers.. went to 499 hp and 455 tq.. lol.. but we can't count that one.

Here's the best with the car headers.



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Here's what was in the engine:

5.3 block aluminum (doesn't really matter if it's iron)
4.8 flat top pistons
5.3 rods - ARP rod bolts
5.3 crank
LS2 timing chain on 5.3 sprockets
LS2 intake/injectors/fuel rail (modified by Turn Key)
90mm Turn Key throttle body
220/224 112 LSA Trick Flow cam (.575 lift)
Trick Flow 205 CNC ported heads (assembled)
Harland Sharp pedestal mount 1.7 rockers
Trick Flow 7.500 chromemoly pushrods

Correction factor was 1.046

91 octane pump gas on a Superflow 901 engine dyno. We estimate compression at around 11.5:1

Would have pulled farther but was running out of voltage at the the upper RPM (dropping to 10.8 volts).. we need a new dyno battery.

Pretty darn happy, especially with the torque curve.

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Beautiful looking engine and great #'s.
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I need to study up on my "volumetric efficiencies" deal... fuzzy on how they can be OVER 100%.

Anyways, very happy, especially with the lower end torque.
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What is volumetric efficiences a measurement of ? What is this engine going in?
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Originally Posted by conan
What is volumetric efficiences a measurement of ? What is this engine going in?
'68 Camaro...

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wow....i put a 5.3 in my car havnt got a chance to mess with it alot it also has a lil bumop in cr ported heads and a small cam....nice numbers...mine will have help from a bottle....
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and to the person that asked ve is a meausurment of basicly how much air your engine is pulling in....if that makes sense...
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damn that's sick!!

throw an electric waterpump on there and you'd probably hit your 500hp mark.
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Originally Posted by Steve1969LS1
Pretty darn happy, especially with the torque curve.
Then why did you use "Best fit Curve" for your plotting method instead of "line"?

Looks great though, I really like the thought of how cheap and plentiful 5.3L have become. With a little work they can really put out some good power!!! What did they have to modify on the intake?? Didnt have a FAST laying around? Im not a fan of STP's inflated numbers. (4%)

When you get a new battery, get the Moroso automatic battery charger, it will solve your problem.

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Originally Posted by Steve1969LS1
'68 Camaro...

Very cool project

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and to the person that asked ve is a meausurment of basicly how much air your engine is pulling in....if that makes sense...
Thanks man
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Originally Posted by SweetS10V8
Then why did you use "Best fit Curve" for your plotting method instead of "line"?

Looks great though, I really like the thought of how cheap and plentiful 5.3L have become. With a little work they can really put out some good power!!! What did they have to modify on the intake?? Didnt have a FAST laying around? Im not a fan of STP's inflated numbers. (4%)

When you get a new battery, get the Moroso automatic battery charger, it will solve your problem.
Old Superflow software.. tried to get the "normal" line but had to settle for "best fit" and the actual plot points.

All the magazines use STP so we do it to be consistent.. in our world only the OEMs use SAE. It just corrects to a lower temp but since our correction factor was only 1.046 then it's nearly irrelevant.

Have a FAST, but it's not part of the build and a pretty expensive item for a "budget" build. Thanks for the battery tip, I will pass it on.
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that torque curve is ridiculous. whats the compression at with the 4.8 flat tops?
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Originally Posted by Steve1969LS1
Old Superflow software.. tried to get the "normal" line but had to settle for "best fit" and the actual plot points.
Gotcha..

Originally Posted by Steve1969LS1
All the magazines use STP so we do it to be consistent.. in our world only the OEMs use SAE. It just corrects to a lower temp but since our correction factor was only 1.046 then it's nearly irrelevant.
Yup, magazines love high numbers, it sells parts. Its also exactly why chassis dyno shops like dyno jets, they give great numbers!
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Have a FAST, but it's not part of the build and a pretty expensive item for a "budget" build. Thanks for the battery tip, I will pass it on.
You cant tell me you didnt have 10 minutes to throw it on just for fun?!?!?! You or your boss needs to live a little, burn a few minutes on curiosity, opps, I mean... R&D!!
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Originally Posted by SweetS10V8
Gotcha..

Yup, magazines love high numbers, it sells parts. Its also exactly why chassis dyno shops like dyno jets, they give great numbers! You cant tell me you didnt have 10 minutes to throw it on just for fun?!?!?! You or your boss needs to live a little, burn a few minutes on curiosity, opps, I mean... R&D!!
Why don't you just blow me?

1. you obviously can't read..

2. I said it's a Superflow.. not a Dynojet..

3. It's an engine dyno.. not a chassis dyno

4. Why put on a FAST unit is we're not going to use it on the final engine? Everyone knows it's makes more power than the LS2 intake.



The correction factor was 1.046 so I don't think it matter which correction factor we used...

Thanks for playing..
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Originally Posted by Steve1969LS1
Why don't you just blow me?

1. you obviously can't read..

2. I said it's a Superflow.. not a Dynojet..

3. It's an engine dyno.. not a chassis dyno

4. Why put on a FAST unit is we're not going to use it on the final engine? Everyone knows it's makes more power than the LS2 intake.



The correction factor was 1.046 so I don't think it matter which correction factor we used...

Thanks for playing..
Chill out chief, I was talking in reference to people liking higher numbers, I know exactly what I'm talking about here. The reference to magazines liking STP and "Chassis dyno shops", in general,(not you)like dynojets becasue both give you big numbers, big numbers sell parts, that's it. I don't see why your upset..](Its not me thats not reading...)
Originally Posted by SweetS10V8
Its also exactly why chassis dyno shops like dyno jets, they give great numbers!
But since you keep bringing it up, 1.046 is adding 4.6% which is 20+hp of correction.

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Originally Posted by SweetS10V8
Chill out chief, I was talking in reference to people liking higher numbers, I know exactly what I'm talking about here. The reference to magazines liking STP and "Chassis dyno shops", in general,(not you)like dynojets becasue both give you big numbers, big numbers sell parts, that's it. I don't see why your upset..](Its not me thats not reading...)

But since you keep bringing it up, 1.046 is adding 4.6% which is 20+hp of correction.
lol.. just busting your chops.. the "magazine" comments get old.. If I cared that much about numbers it would have "magicaly" been 501 hp..

I use what they have.. most chassis shops have dynojets, but to be honest Westech has a Superflow. All of the engine dynos I use are Superflow 901 and 902s. We will dyno the car when it's done to try and "back up" the engine dyno numbers.

Besides, I was grumpy because I spent all day screwing with AN fittings.. so how about a hug? lol
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Damn, look at that torque curve! That's gonna be a badass project when it's done!
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are the 4.8 pistons the same bore as the 5.3? you used stock 4.8 pistons right?
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I'm sorry but what is a "90mm Turn Key throttle body"? Is that a brand/model, if so where did you get it? I'm looking at options for 90mm cable throttle bodies.

Very impressive hp/tq curves for sure!

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