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Old 06-09-2009, 04:13 PM   #21
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So far I'm happy with mine. Got it from SDPC and I also ran the 7.425's. It did 393rwhp, then went and got it re-tuned @ EFI Alchemy and picked up 3 tenths & 4mph @ the track (with the same 60' time as before), so I'm sure I picked up a few more hp. No dyno #'s after the EFI tune, but the track doesn't lie. Just got a set of LS6 heads on it, so I'm planning to dyno soon.
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So you ran the 7.425 with the ls6 head and asa cam? I have a 02 ls6 and the cam on the shelf waiting to go in. I am running 1.75 rockers, can I use my stock pr's?
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Yeah I don't understand why everyone hates on this cam, it sounds great, makes good numbers, has tons of torque down low and is tried and true. I'm about tired of hearing about custom cam this or go bigger, it's a waste of money, etc.. GM Engineers designed the damn thing for the engines they designed and built so it's not that bad at all. I'm thrilled with mine, runs neck to neck with an 02 WS6 with a " custom " cam in the 600" lift range. What more can someone ask for? Plus the look on peoples faces when I pull up to a light is priceless. Wide open SLP LM1 exhaust with Long tubes and this cam, can't beat it at all.
I agree, I believe the GM Engineers know a little bit about LS engines. I'm leaning toward this cam and a set of GMPP LS6 CNC'd heads with the hollow stem valves. How would this set up perform?
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I agree, I believe the GM Engineers know a little bit about LS engines. I'm leaning toward this cam and a set of GMPP LS6 CNC'd heads with the hollow stem valves. How would this set up perform?
Man from what I've researched that seems like the perfect combination. I believe this cam was designed to be used with the LS6 heads so it should be a very good matching combo. I'm going with those heads or the CNC'd 5.3's myself. This cam loves a free flowing exhaust too so headers are a must with at least a unrestrictive catback. My car has the stock 241 heads and runs like a pissed off animal and I'll have dyno numbers soon to post up on here.
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I had the ASA cam in my LS1 before it blew up. It laid 370 rwhp / 360rwtq. The best thing about this cam is that it makes good low - mid range torque, just not high peak numbers. You must have a good exhaust (headers / cat back) in order to make the most of it. My ran and idled (barely) on a stock tune (M6 car) but it really needs a good tune to get the most out of it in terms of performance and driveability. I'd also recommend going to at least a 3.73 rear gear. That will keep the cam in its preferred operating range.
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I had the ASA cam in my LS1 before it blew up. It laid 370 rwhp / 360rwtq. The best thing about this cam is that it makes good low - mid range torque, just not high peak numbers. You must have a good exhaust (headers / cat back) in order to make the most of it. My ran and idled (barely) on a stock tune (M6 car) but it really needs a good tune to get the most out of it in terms of performance and driveability. I'd also recommend going to at least a 3.73 rear gear. That will keep the cam in its preferred operating range.
What heads and manifold did you have when you got 370 hp?
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What heads and manifold did you have when you got 370 hp?
Stock untouched heads. LS6 intake and Pacesetter LTs.
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I agree, I believe the GM Engineers know a little bit about LS engines. I'm leaning toward this cam and a set of GMPP LS6 CNC'd heads with the hollow stem valves. How would this set up perform?
Thats the setup I'm runing right now. Gonna dyno in a few weeks. Feels pretty strong though. I'm guessing its around 430hp now. Like I said before, it did 393 cam only and I picked up some power after a new tune, and I figure the heads are worth about 25-30hp. I'll definately post up when I get real #'s though.

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So you ran the 7.425 with the ls6 head and asa cam? I have a 02 ls6 and the cam on the shelf waiting to go in. I am running 1.75 rockers, can I use my stock pr's?
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No, the 7.425's were with the stock heads. My LS6 heads were milled some, so I'm running 7.375's
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Thats the setup I'm runing right now. Gonna dyno in a few weeks. Feels pretty strong though. I'm guessing its around 430hp now. Like I said before, it did 393 cam only and I picked up some power after a new tune, and I figure the heads are worth about 25-30hp. I'll definately post up when I get real #'s though.


No, the 7.425's were with the stock heads. My LS6 heads were milled some, so I'm running 7.375's
Are you running the CNC'd hollow stem LS6 heads? Those are the numbers I'm shooting for, 430ish.
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Are you running the CNC'd hollow stem LS6 heads? Those are the numbers I'm shooting for, 430ish.
Yep, sure are
I've talked to a couple of other guys with the same setup and they were putting down power in the 430's.
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Attached is the dyno run from my ASA LS1. It's in a stock car with a very free flowing exhaust and a very efficient drivetrain.
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hmm...i had thoughts on this cam for my 5.3...no its not in a truck...lol....found a good deal on an ls6 cam and went that way instead....whats the normal used price on the asa cam...and the new cost....if anyone knows...
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To clarify, I have had this cam for the last 10,000 miles. It pulls very hard and a rip 400rwhp cars on a daily basis. I put down 383rwhp through ps lt's and a ps ory. I have stock pulleys as well. The ONLY thing I added with this cam were ls6 springs. Tell me where you can get a cam that lopes this hard, pulls this hard but utilizes fully stock component from GM? No where that's where. People flip when i tell them the lift is only slightly higher than stock at .525 on both sides...I love it and will run it till my motor pops. I cam'd at 116k and I'm at 127k currently on a 98 with the "crappy" heads...
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I have always been intrigued with this cam. It has a very balanced TQ curve.

The only question I have is perhaps for those with heads that really flow, you might get some additional HP/TQ with a higher cam lift and different ramp profile.

Someone would have to do some back to back dyno test to really know. But, it is easy to mimic the valve events of that cam by going custom and adding some lift and differing lobes.

If anything it proves that cams with 110 LSA's are being overlooked. They do sound good and perform quite well.

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Bringing this back from the dead. I'm currently looking for a good used ASA for my 98 LS1 70 Chevelle swap. I'm running a completely stock LS1, Edelbrock VR Intake, QFT 750 mechanical carb, MSD 6010, mated to a Muncie close ratio 4 speed, and 4.10:1 rear gear in the old Velle. I like the 110 LSA on paper for carb use. Thoughts?
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With the 110L LSA and .525 lift, what was this cam designed for?

From the people that have it, sounds like low/mid torque is good. Does it fall off at higher RPM's?
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With the 110L LSA and .525 lift, what was this cam designed for?

From the people that have it, sounds like low/mid torque is good. Does it fall off at higher RPM's?


It was designed for a sealed motor for one of the American Speed Association (ASA) series. I do not recall which level of ASA, but it was used as mostly a circle track application. The ASA series tend to spend most of their time on smaller tracks, and would need a broad torque curve to pull the car out of slow corners.
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I did not know that. Good info.

I'm just guessing but it sounds like this cam wouldn't be good at higher RPM's. Interesting specs on the cam for sure. Haven't seen anything else like it.
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I did not know that. Good info.

I'm just guessing but it sounds like this cam wouldn't be good at higher RPM's. Interesting specs on the cam for sure. Haven't seen anything else like it.

Something in the deep memory is saying 7000 ish rpm. May not peak like some of the higher lift cams, but has a long, broad curve.

Series had a fuel cutoff of 6500

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How do you think this can would perform with some 1.8 rockers would increase the lift a little if I'm not mistaken
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