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Old 08-10-2009, 05:55 PM
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Default LS6 Block Vs. LS1 Block

I just found out that i have a LS6 block. Any pros come with this. Or is it the same? If there is already a thread somewhere about this, someone point me in the right direction. Thanks.
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they are a little stronger due to design and the crank case is vented through the center valley cover. after 02 or something they are all the ls6 block.

it has been a while sinces i researched this. so the 02 year may be wrong but either way it is not a big deal .the ls1 and ls6 are both good stock blocks and have their limitations.

I have spun both past 7k rpms with no problems. for lots of miles. cam and valvetrain is more important than the block when looking at 2 aluminum production blocks
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The only difference between LS6 and LS1 is the upper end '02 and after. Cam, lifters, heads, springs. The block is the same as an LS1 5.7L so do you mean you have an C5 block which is a 5.7L or a C6 block that is 6.0L.
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Originally Posted by 02*C5
The only difference between LS6 and LS1 is the upper end '02 and after. Cam, lifters, heads, springs. The block is the same as an LS1 5.7L so do you mean you have an C5 block which is a 5.7L or a C6 block that is 6.0L.
no there is some different webbing in the ls6 block vrs the ls1. it is in the valley under the center cover under the intake.plus like i said the crank case is vented through there too.

you can use a ls6 valley cover on a ls1 block but you have to grind some of the casting away to do it. or should say cut a chunk of it out for the cover to fit
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Quick346 is correct. Minimal structural advantage, no power advantage. Simple as that.
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Originally Posted by quick346
no there is some different webbing in the ls6 block vrs the ls1. it is in the valley under the center cover under the intake.plus like i said the crank case is vented through there too.

you can use a ls6 valley cover on a ls1 block but you have to grind some of the casting away to do it. or should say cut a chunk of it out for the cover to fit
Thanks I have always thought they where the same never broke one down that far to notice the difference.
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Yes, there are differences between the blocks. Read this:

http://www.idavette.net/hib/ls6/page3.htm
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Originally Posted by 02*C5
The only difference between LS6 and LS1 is the upper end '02 and after. Cam, lifters, heads, springs. The block is the same as an LS1 5.7L so do you mean you have an C5 block which is a 5.7L or a C6 block that is 6.0L.
Wrong also: 2008+ is 6.2 for standard Corvette; 7.0 for Z06; 6.2 for ZR1.

Just because you haven't broken one down before doesn't mean you can't do some research before posting wrong information.
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Originally Posted by BAD2000TA
Wrong also: 2008+ is 6.2 for standard Corvette; 7.0 for Z06; 6.2 for ZR1.

Just because you haven't broken one down before doesn't mean you can't do some research before posting wrong information.
Well if we are talking LS1 and LS6, the LS6 is not a 2008+ the LS6 stopped being made in 2004... In my experience most people talk about LS6 as the LS2 6.0 not the LS3 6.2 and the LS6 I think we can all agree is the 2002 - 2004 and it is not the 7L because we can also agree that the 7L ZO6 is an LS7 as known since 2005 onward... Also that the 243 heads in the LS6 from 2002 to 2004 have a flow in the mid 240's and the 241's where in the 220's. Also that the lifter was the biggest thing holding the LS1 because you started to get valve float around 6500 rpms and the new improved lifter for the LS6 made Hp all the way to 7K rpm with no issues. So if you where smart and got a ZO6 maf, complete 243 heads (02-04), cam, and lifters after 2002, with a good tune you where running ZO6 numbers for about 15K less of a cost of the car.



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Originally Posted by 02*C5
Well if we are talking LS1 and LS6, the LS6 is not a 2008+ the LS6 stopped being made in 2004... In my experience most people talk about LS6 as the LS2 6.0 not the LS3 6.2 and the LS6 I think we can all agree is the 2002 - 2004 and it is not the 7L because we can also agree that the 7L ZO6 is an LS7 as known since 2005 onward... Also that the 243 heads in the LS6 from 2002 to 2004 have a flow in the mid 240's and the 241's where in the 220's. Also that the lifter was the biggest thing holding the LS1 because you started to get valve float around 6500 rpms and the new improved lifter for the LS6 made Hp all the way to 7K rpm with no issues. So if you where smart and got a ZO6 maf, complete 243 heads (02-04), cam, and lifters after 2002, with a good tune you where running ZO6 numbers for about 15K less of a cost of the car.See even you can learn a thing or two


Nice try dude....you were wrong...bombarding us with BS does not change anything ...

PS LS1 lifters do not float at 6500 ... mine have gone to 7200 rpms countless times.
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Originally Posted by 02*C5
Well if we are talking LS1 and LS6, the LS6 is not a 2008+ the LS6 stopped being made in 2004... In my experience most people talk about LS6 as the LS2 6.0 not the LS3 6.2 and the LS6 I think we can all agree is the 2002 - 2004 and it is not the 7L because we can also agree that the 7L ZO6 is an LS7 as known since 2005 onward... Also that the 243 heads in the LS6 from 2002 to 2004 have a flow in the mid 240's and the 241's where in the 220's. Also that the lifter was the biggest thing holding the LS1 because you started to get valve float around 6500 rpms and the new improved lifter for the LS6 made Hp all the way to 7K rpm with no issues. So if you where smart and got a ZO6 maf, complete 243 heads (02-04), cam, and lifters after 2002, with a good tune you where running ZO6 numbers for about 15K less of a cost of the car.



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Well, no, you still have your facts wrong. First, I said 2008+ because you mentioned C6. The C6 started with the LS2; it never had an LS6. Secondly, the LS6 was produced from 2001-2004 with some changes made in 2002. It was 5.7 liters and has nothing to do with the 6.0 liter LS2. Third, the LS7 was offered in 2006, one year after the C6 introduction. Fourth, the reason for the improved high rpm on the LS6 compared to the LS1 was the valve springs and cam; not the lifters.
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oh god! what have i started? thanks for the help and info everyone.
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wow, way to de-rail a thread that started to be on topic and incuded the info actually asked.
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Originally Posted by BAD2000TA
Yes, there are differences between the blocks. Read this:

http://www.idavette.net/hib/ls6/page3.htm
I am a member of the C5 registry and recall reading this very informative report on their web sight back in 2002. Apparently some of you bozo's haven't taken the time to read this information that was provided by the GM engineers that designed the LS1/LS6 series engines. As you can see there are number of improvements that has enhanced the LS6 block (entire engine) over the the older LS1's.
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Originally Posted by BAD2000TA
Yes, there are differences between the blocks. Read this:

http://www.idavette.net/hib/ls6/page3.htm
Awesome link Bad, thanks for posting that up.
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Originally Posted by slt200mph
Nice try dude....you were wrong...bombarding us with BS does not change anything ...

PS LS1 lifters do not float at 6500 ... mine have gone to 7200 rpms countless times.
Maybe the Comp oe replacements but every where I have read the "STOCK" LS1 lifters performance limitation to hydraulic roller lifters it is the maximum rpm capability they can maintain in race applications. The internal hydraulics of standard roller lifters are susceptible to pumping up around 6200-6500 RPM, causing horsepower robbing valve float along with the possibility of severe valvetrain damage. Now you can upgrade your LS1 stock lifters to the OE replacements from comp or various ones but the LS1 if your doing race application in maintained 6200 to 6500 rpm you will cause damage to your internals. If not then why does every one I know changes to the replacement lifters, when they are going to be constantly shifting between 6.5K and 6.8 K rpms. Even the TEA techs along with countless others have informed me to upgrade my lifters if I was going to be shifting between those RPM points.

Now that leaves it to two questions;

Either TEA is trying to make money off the public at large by giving incorrect information, misleading their costumers and making them spend their hard earned money in areas they are not supposed to or...

The techs at TEA know their business and they are advising the correct thing to do because there could be valve train failure and they wish to make sure that their products are not torn up in the process saving their costumers thousands of dollars.


I op for #2 but you can let me and the public at large know please at any time you can retort.

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I have used two sets of stock GM LS1 lifters over the last 191,000+ miles on my daily driver LS1 it is a heads/cam boltons car it makes 452/418 (used three different cams) ... the first set came in the car and the second set were removed from a stock LS1 that was going to a solid roller configuration with less than 50 miles on them ( a GMMG car) ...this engine has been shifted at 7200 rpms hundreds of times...dyno sheets show no sign of valve float or high rpm valve train instability....your orginal response in this thread was incorrect....when that was pointed out you bombarded us with info that noone asked for that was off topic and then you failed to take the hint that you were hijacking the thread...you are still hijacking the thread and posting up incorrect info that has nothing to do with the orginal topic of the thread...please spare us from more of the same.



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